I have created my top 10 p4p

his list is nonsense but you bringing up race is pretty sad

 

I do think Mayweather at least was clearly ahead of the pack, with Pac the closest to nipping at his educated heels.

You just mentioned two fights he could have been argued to have lost, in his career. I think really that just proves his case. In between Castillo I and Maidana I passed a dozen years. A dozen years separating the only fights you could even make a case for him not deserving to win - and IMO, worst case on either night for PBF was a draw. Duran and Jones had losses and near-losses, too, so not sure why you'd exclude Mayweather (or Pac, for that matter) from being a 'generational talent'. Dominating in 90% of your matches, with 90% of your matches being against ranked contenders (with several of them current, former or future PPV stars) over a two decade period does separate you from your peers, a couple of relatively close bouts notwithstanding.

 

Other than having Crawford at the top I really like the list. Not a popular choice, I know, then again looking at the level of subjectivity and biased from most posters responding in this thread, Wards list is a lot more tolerable.

 

This is a troll list. How anyone can have Lomachenko or Roman Gonzales ahead of Canelo after their recent losses is mind boggling. Putting the fighters who beat them ahead of them P4P is classic trying to play "damage control" for overrated fighters losing, especially after Lomachenko's loss. I'm guessing this tinman guy is a big Lomachenko fan, but you can't let fandom affect your P4P rankings.

Canelo is the Undisputed #1 P4P Fighter in the sport, he's #1 in every official P4P ranking at this point. You'd have to be quite the hater to not have him #1. Putting him at #9, that's just crazy. But hey, whatever floats your boat. You wanna put out a crazy list and get mocked for it, go ahead. Usyk and Beterbiev #1 and #2, wow, and your rankings are supposdly by "merit"?? What have they done to deserve that spot?

Boxing noobs really need to learn how to evaluate talent and rate fighters. This is an embarrassing list tinman, and I don't know how you could convince yourself to post something this crazy.

 

Of course and this is normal for pro boxing business: boxer should have enough impactful promoter and manager and should come from proper country, sorry, this means proper passport at first not boxing in the ring.
So domestic scene for him was Gvozdyk and nice heroes like Canelo and Ward might had talked till death about possible fight vs Beterbiev etc due to simple thing: western heroes were not enough mature and enemies not enough old for cash cows to beat up to get $ from cubicles.

Local level champoions are like Ward, DHL, Floyd Jr and Canelo too, murcian champs without BALLS to fight outside of U.S/

Basically all these are ONLY LOCAL champs while their fans are dreaming that these are maybe close to Holy Juice King Level.
They are not and all these are LOCAL only LOCAL champs nothing more.

 

I'm not sure you understood what you were quoting - that segment of a paragraph was about Maderna, not Beterbiev.

 

Beterbiev can't hold a candle to Kazuto Ioka's merit

 

If he will beat Plant he de facto will be an undisputed.
Otherwise this is cherry picking cash cow nothing more.
Thanks to God looks that at 168 lbs he does not cherry pick. If he will beat Plant in next fight he will be like Usyk: an Undisputed. Forever in history and he does knows this " small " thing.

 

It's just opinion. Bad answers sure but by definition there are no wrong answers.

 

I wasn't referring to him being Undisputed at 168 lbs, but rather him being Undisputed P4P #1 at this point. Every legitimate official publication that ranks fighters P4P has him #1. If you don't have Canelo near P4P #1 the entire list cannot be taken seriously. Yes it's an opinion poll, but what we've seen out of Canelo in recent years leaves no doubt that this guy is at the pinnacle of the sport. The performances speak for themselves. He's dominating a weight class that no one thought he would even be fighting in. P4P is mainly about recent performanaces, no one has performed better or been more impressive than Canelo in his wins over Saunders and Callum Smith, both of whom were undefeated fighters.

 

He has a different opinion to you

Get over it

 

Canelo if he will fight vs Plant and will defeat Plant will be an undisputed like Usyk was at CW.
Divisions ofc different : 168 lbs and 200 lbs limit, core like the same.
Bad stuff that Canelo did not had fought on foreign soil as a pro etc.