I have just seen Jeff Smith fight Carpentier

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  1. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he hates me, we all know that and I have a friend in the US who has been showing me just how often the guy bends the truth and he smears many great fighters for no reason but to make his fighters look good, it is disgusting what he has done to some of these great men, when he passes away he may get to meet these ex-men in the underworld and will have to explain himself to them. I am not obsessed with him or anyone on here but this charlatan needs exposing.
     
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    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats the problem when you set out to make enemies of strangers.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He's right though you should probably tone it down a bit it's not great.

    You're a contributer and you're welcome here, but it needs to be said that for all that I don't agree with the way klompton conducts himself here, he is a long-time poster and contributor here. I don't know if he "needs exposing" but if you're determined to do it, maybe this isn't the best place for it.
     
  4. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I agree, if he does get exposed (now I am sure he isn't always making false claims and conducting smear campaigns, just when anyone tries to say something he doesn't like), it will be somewhere more well accessed. My friend in the US is the one who knows all about him but I will not reveal anymore about him, he is anonymous.
     
  5. klompton2

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    HOw did I get exposed and bend the truth, either you or McGrain can answer this for me. Your post started out by saying I have said there was no film of Smith. I posted a link that I made almost two weeks before you made this post not only stating categorically that I had footage of Smith but I also posted screenshots of that footage. And if you dont believe that Im the one who found that film and paid (with three friends) to have that film transferred from nitrate and saved then I can produce all of the records for that as well which I still have. So who got exposed? You who was saying I had something that I hadnt, or me? Your obsession is pathetic. You came on here after YEARS resurrecting dead threads that I had argued and crushed your dumbass on just for the purpose of trolling. I couldnt care less about you and your Darcy fascination. I couldnt care less about your trolling. While you are sitting here being a **** I will continue to do things that neither you nor McGrain will ever be aware of which actually contribute something to preservation of boxings history. You guys just keep posting on this forum and pretend it means anything.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    That's all well and good but we have a lounge for stuff like that.

    I once made a thread about a daft poster years back on ESB because he made a false claim and tried weeding his way out of it.

    But on a classical forum, and on a thread about a fight worthy of its own thread, the last thing you should be doing is make a trio of posts about another poster.

    Whatever history you two have is between you two but when I click on a thread and see the first 3 posts are about Klompton it seems like a deliberate bait and, frankly, it is childish.

    I mean is every thread on this forum gonna be Greg/Klompton/Mendoza/Mcvey cluster ****?
     
  7. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. You noticed I made one post answering this **** two weeks and have stayed above it ever since until he made this thread lying about me. Once again, I responded pointing out his b.s. Exactly who has been exposed here, him or me? I also find his comment justifying his behavior "Well he hates me" ridiculous. I hadnt seen, thought about, mentioned, or posted about this idiot in years, literally, until he came on here attacking me. Who is obsessed with who?
     
  8. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Such total arrogance, so many stupid sentences in here.. I never trolled about Darcy, I know far more about him than you will ever know. as for someone trying to expose you that is your problem, it is you that made that guy your enemy not me, and no I won't name my friend under any circumstances, you reap what you sow. From now on I will try my utmost not to call you any names but I doubt that means anything to you. You did lead me to believe there was no Smith footage whether you mentioned it somewhere else is not my fault.

    I actually didn't claim you didn't have anything to do with bringing that film out but I have been told that you never owned the film nor do you now so stop going on that I said you had nothing to do with it.... ok what else did you say....... oh yeah this, you keep harping on about this fallacy as if by saying it that it becomes true, this is your biggest fault. Here it is.........
    Pathetic, how on earth do you come to that conclusion ??? you crushed me ??? how ????... I left because you bored me to death not because you out-debated me, that is just outrageous, I always answered your claims but it was you trying to smear and discredit Les Darcy by continuing on with lies that date back to when that fool Snowy Baker started all his lies about Darcy and he and the government wanted to destroy Darcy by feeding a constant barrage of lies to US newspapers which soured relations between two staunch allied nations after Darcy died. You have offended the entire boxing community of Australia by your distortions about Darcy, sure you can have your doubts as to if he was all that many say he was but you don't go around calling a national hero a COWARD,... that sir is by definition cowardly and you wonder why every Aussie that ever came on here can't stand you ? Bobby Sinn knew ten hundred times more about Australian boxing history but you hated his guts and constantly insulted him, sure then he returned serve but I have read all of what transpired between you and him and it was your comments about Australians being criminal convict scum that got me to come here in the first place.

    You think I am stupid ? dumb ? have no credentials or boxing history knowledge ? you have said as much time and time again and you wonder why I am so angry now ? I even tried to PM you to patch things up but still no reply, you have to smear in public but can't talk face to face or by PM. I actually know as much as you do, and at least your equal in intelligence and know more about Darcy and any Aussie fighter than you do... oh yeah that's eight, Australian's are bad fighters you said... why don't you try fighting one yourself.

    Arrogance, just arrogance, listen to yourself carrying on as if only you are an expert and only you know what you are talking about which is just self love, and why bring McGrain into it ? we have as much right to post here as you ever did. As for myself, I have many many friends here and elsewhere who DO THINK I HAVE PLENTY TO OFFER and they have learned much from my efforts....... you have no idea who I am so you are just doin a Bob Dylan,....... blowin in the wind.

    If you want respect you have to earn it, you can't bulldoze your way through this.... if you want friends don't talk DOWN to people and pleeeease don't say you don't.... you have put yourself on a pedestal, maybe you did a great job in your Greb book but calling me a troll won't sell more copies.
     
  9. McGrain

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    I have no idea; I haven't said either that you have been exposed or that you have bent the truth and have no idea why you have elected to name me in that post.

    But it is the kind of thing i'd like to avoid, if it's possible. It's ****ty these long exchanges of name calling and ****ysing and winding-up of one another. If it could be done I would like to avoid it.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I have noted at times Australian posters getting furious when others doubt Darcy's title claim, say he was never as good as Gibbons or question his greatness full stop.

    When I first started posting here years ago I remember saying something along the lines of "as far as I can tell Darcy was never the number 1 MW in the world" and some of the reactions I got were totally disproportionate.

    I mean I'm English but if someone says to me Bruno was ****, I'd just laugh it off.

    I don't know if that's why this hatred has begun or why it's still there but it in this specific case it did look like a deliberate attempt at baiting you into an argument.
     
  11. gregluland

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    Frankly this is a good post and yes things do seem to have got out of hand, that happens when one guy keeps trying to say I am just a worthless troll, I have never even looked at the lounge so don't know what it is. You are right though about most of it (except I am not the only one that has had big dust ups with him there have been too many). Unless I get called a troll on my own thread again I will concentrate on the Smith v Carpentier fight it is as you say worthy of that..... So thanks Luf, i also get tired of the McVey Mendoza arguing aometimes so I get your point.
     
  12. gregluland

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    I actually dont mind being called a four star guy **** **** I must be a US general in the US army.
     
  13. dpw417

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    Thanks!:good
     
  14. klompton2

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    Youve been doing it for two weeks. Anyone who can read can see that. Its why you are getting called out for trying to bate me.

    Go jack yourself off somewhere else. I couldnt care less if you know what color Darcy's knickers were. It doesnt matter to me. Get that through your thick skull. There is more to boxing than Les Darcy. The mans impact on the sport was so miniscule that your fascination with him is beyond bizarre.


    I dont know who or what you are talking about. It was you who said "this charlatan needs exposing." Not some faceless nobody. You might find this hard to believe but unlike you I dont lose sleep worrying what you or anyone you may or may not be associated with thinks. As for being a charlatan what exactly have I misrepresented about myself?? You just got caught trying to spread a lie about me for something that I can refute with a post from just two weeks ago.

    It doesnt mean anything to me. I dont care. You arent that important to me. You can post all these posts at me and send me all PMs you want. As you can see youve been largely ignored until now.


    I didnt lead you to ****. I dont care enough about you to worry about whether you know I have a film or not. Anyone who wants to believe that I secretly kept something from the world can simply refer to the back of my book published 2 years ago and see in the film references that I used as research Jeff Smith. What you convinced yourself of is neither here nor there to me.

    No you lied and said I had somehow mislead you into believing the film never existed. I never did. And what some ignoramous who knows nothing about my collection told you is less than meaningless. As the screenshots I posted two weeks ago afirm I own that film.

    Thats the crux of the problem here. As luf pointed out anyone who doesnt bow down at the alter of Les Darcy is an enemy. Anyone who points out verifiable facts about Darcy, particularly his stay in the USA, is either lying, ignorant, or just rehashing some old conspiracy. Well, Im sorry to say but most of Darcy's problems were brought on by Darcy himself. Chalk that up to his youth and immaturity which is a valid argument but he made some very poor choices which snowballed and ended hurting him. Blaming those choices on others just doesnt wash.

    The preservation of the fragile Australian ego is not important to me I say what I think. So, no, I dont wonder why every Australian cant stand me. I dont wonder at it at all because I dont care.

    Its not a **** measuring contest. I couldnt care less what Bobby Sinn knew. He was as much of a ****, a fantastist, and an obsessive as you are and got dealt with accordingly.

    Maybe I got the wrong impression based on your countrys history and having to deal with dip****s like you two.

    I dont really think about it enough to form an opinion of whether you are dumb, stupid, ignorant, or just imbalanced.

    No, I dont wonder. I dont care. If you get this worked up because someone you will never meet said something you dont agree with about a man that died before you were ever born then thats your issue. Not mine.

    You tried to PM me to "patch things up" because you found out I had film of Jeff Smith and you wanted to see it. I dont feel the need to "patch things up" because I dont care about you. I never will. You are unimportant and there is no need for me to pretend that your comments, negative or otherwise mean anything to me until you lie like you did. Then I will respond. I expect it to happen more often now because you have an obsession with discussing boxing with me and have now found a way to get me to engage. Beyond that I have no interest in you and if you never mention my name again you will never hear from me again. I realize thats a tough blow to someone who has taken up so much of their valuable time by finding ways to get me to respond to you but thats the way it is.


    You seem obsessed with "knowing" more than I do.

    Oooh, is that a challenge...


    And I hope they get you the help you need.

    Well, its important to feel appreciated I suppose...

    You should take your own advice here. Simply shouting at the top of your lungs how smart you are is going to do little to impress anyone. Doing nothing but quoting from the book youve read about Darcy will only get you so far.


    This is where part of your confusion lies. I dont want you as my friend. Again, I dont care about you enough to worry whether you are a friend or not. The problem is that you misconstrue someone not agreeing with you, and posting things that refute what you say as talking down to you. By doing so you make a discussion about boxing into a personal matter.

    No, I dont. Ive said many times that Im not special and others could do the same things I have done. BUT, you havent. If that makes me "better" or "smarter" or whatever you have fixated on then so be it. It is what it is.

    You being a troll started long before I published my book and continued long after. Sorry to burst your bubble but you have absolutely zero impact on my book sales which are just fine.
     
  15. gregluland

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    Pathetic beyond belief, it would take an hour to read all that gibberish, you are the lowest of the low for saying this
    It is a waste of time talking to you, no one worthany decency would ever sink that low.... in fact it makes everything you say worthless as you are.
     
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