I have no idea how fans can cast the stones at Floyd

Well said and succinct. :thumbsup

 

"till" mayweather asked for extraordinary tests? You know that was part of the agreement on mayweathers side for the whole time right?

"And you still haven't provided a reason why Floyd would seek tests in this bout that he didn't require of JMM, Oscar, Hatton, and every other fighter he's ever faced."

Well I for 1 can't answer this cos I ain't Mayweather, but I can assume it's either because in an age of dirty athletes Floyd is doing this to every opponent he faces to ensure no cheating, or suspects Pacman is on something. But you can answer as to what difference this makes in the argument? I'm guessing you think it's because Floyd didn't want the fight? Well how the **** was Floyd supposed to know it would be the deal breaker? Especially with the 14 day window later offered...

But what you *******s kill me with is why should MORE STRINGENT ANTI-CHEATING MEASURES be a bad thing? Sure the drug laws made out are mandatory and basic for everyone but i'm guessing it says nowhere that you can't do further anti-doping tests. But really, fights are negotiated with clauses that aren't under regulations so why should MORE THOROUGH ANTI CHEATING MEASURES be criticized, especially when it's been made clear Floyd will do it with all future opponents. This is the most ridiculus and ******ed thing I've ever had an argument about.

 

You absolutely are correct!!!!

You have no idea at all.

 

I can understand that YOU can' answer. But Floyd IS Mayweather, and HE hasn't provided any reason why he asked for the tests either.

Again, it's not his place. That's the role of the boxing authorities.

And curious that he would start making such dire assumptions at THIS POINT IN TIME rather than say, before the Hatton, or Mayweather fights.

Unless of course, he doesn't really WANT this fight.

Based on what ?

You can't expect to change long-established practices based on unsupported suspicions.

If you insist, you look scared.

That is where all the evidence points.

I'm not suggesting he's physically scared of facing Manny. Few (if any) top boxers are scared in that sense. I very much doubt he would be physically scared of facing Pavlik or Hopkins either.

I'm suggesting he's scared of incurring a loss.

Once he realized it was a deal-breaker, if he really wanted the fight, he should have dropped the demand. He could have said something like:

"I'm not happy about the testing... but I know I can beat him. And I'm going to begin lobbying the boxing commissions for stricter testing"

That would have saved the fight.

The number of days is irrelevant. As stated earlier, it's not Floyd's role to set the terms of the drug tests.

And again, Manny agreed to any test on fight night.

You were doing ok in the civility department up to this point.

I'll excuse your ignorance here on account of your Newbie status.

If you'd been on here earlier, you would know that I'm not a '*******.'

I'm a fan and have been since he beat Barerra the first time, but I picked against him in each of his last three fights.

And I sided with Cotto on the catchweight issue in their recent fight, arguing that the WW title should not be at stake if Cotto was forced to come in at 145.

I have never said that more stringent testing would be a bad thing. Nor has Pac.

He just says that it must be the boxing authorities who make any changes. He's said numerous times that he'll take any test required of him BY THE BOXING COMMISSIONS.

See, it's not up to Floyd. That's the thing. Do I have to say again who it's up to ?

Sure, Floyd can make all kinds of noise about cleaning up the sport from roid users and can say what he'll demand of future opponents. That's very nice.

And convenient. He's never likely to meet another opponent that gives him as much pause as Pac.

Why didn't he get this urge before, when he was fighting other opponents ?

And I don't think he gives a **** about level playing fields. We saw how level the field was in his last choice of opponent.

JMM was smaller, much older and had fought twice ever above 130. Floyd agreed to a catchweight of 144, and then came in at 146, and paid his 'fine.'

I think we agree there.

 

Did I miss that? Floyd called out Pac?

 

:deal

 

page 18 already.

 

The most balanced post you've ever written.

 

He's rarely right about anything. Given the volatility of the subject, the recognition of the thread starter, the size of the original post, among other factors, this one was destined to pass 18 pages. It was a terrible prediction. You can get 18 pages these days just opening a thread with the words "Vitali" and "Lewis" in the same thread title.

 

One thing experts rarely do is agree on a subject. However, on the subject of drug testing in boxing there is one thing that has become strikingly clear: Boxing's drug testing methods do NOT catch cheaters who have even the slightest clue what they are doing. In other words, leaving the drug testing to the authorities to do as they have always done would be for Floyd to leave himself open to the prospect of cheating. It is about time someone took a stand on this.

 

damn blade is the truth he a floyd hater but he the truth. a Nostradamus mother****a

 

That would be the case if it ended on 18 pages. Which it won't.

 

your fanaticism has unfortunately clouded your judgment. Manny does not need to prove to your God he's clean to fight him, comprende? The boxing commission says he's clean then he's clean. You don't believe it because your God said so, isn't it? If you have a problem with the testing, blame NSAC not Manny. deal with it geez...

Manny needs the advantage of ruining Floyd's psyche that the guy he's fighting is on roids and indestructible. that ludicrous demand certainly has worked against Floyd psychologically instead of gaining anything from it.

 

bitterness:good. there aint much PBF fans, just a bunch of bitter PAC haters. if PAC were to fight bin laden, they would be bin laden fans as well.

 

Osama would have a clear height and reach advantage.

And of course, he would have a clear edge in the 'killer 'instinct' end of things.

This could go either way, IMO.

A lot would depend on the location and the officiating.