I have some questions for Floyd Fan!

fitzgeraldz · May 8, 2008

Pimp C is owning you chumps ...

BewareofDawg · May 8, 2008

Pimp C said:

The main difference I saw was the fact he was so much easier to hit in the Forbes fight. This may be because he had no respect for Forbes's power or it may be because he's starting to slip defensively. If it's the later he will be in a world of trouble facing the much more accurate and more powerful PBF.
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Or it may be because Forbes was aggressive in short spurts and when he came at Oscar he came with more then one punch. If you watch the fight, it was combinations that were catching Oscar, when Forbes would open up the 1st and 2nd shots were caught on the gloves but the following ones got in.
You are also assuming a decline between last year and this year, and ignoring the possibility that Floyds cautious first style in the first fight and lack of combination punching just didn't expose a diminished defense that was already there.

Pimp C said:

Another thing was his lack of power. Although Forbes is a tough guy he was never really hurt badly in the fight or dropped. Oscar's power is not the same as it once was he should have been able to hurt a former 130 pound fighter like Forbes.
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He did hurt him. Forbes wasn't 130lbs on fight night, so his punch resistance is better. Also it's hard to hurt a fighter who is only being offensive in short spurts and for the most part being extremely defensive. Which is why Floyd rarely gets hit clean and hurt.
Again though, you are assuming that this decline in power took place between last year and this year, but wasn't already there prior to him fight Floyd, but Floyds defensive style was all the explanation we needed for him not getting hurt.

Pimp C said:

I don't buy into that Oscar's stamina has improved BS. Although Forbes was using good head movement he stood right in front of Oscar for the most part thus Oscar didn't have to use his legs so of course he's going to look fresh. Against PBF he will have to use his legs much more he will miss more which will tire him out not to mention the added stress of facing the best fighter in the game it will make him use more adrenaline and tire you out faster. With that said I expect Oscar to fade maybe even sooner than he did in the first fight.
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I agree, I don't think his stamina has improved. I actually agree with all of this. But it also backs up the claim that Oscar has lost significant stamina from the time of his prime until the time he fought Floyd the first time.

Question #2

Does Oscars marked up face after the Forbes fight say anything about the amount of clean shots Forbes landed vs the amount Floyd landed? You have already stated Floyd has more power, so why was Oscar completely unscathed after the Floyd fight?

BewareofDawg · May 8, 2008

fitzgeraldz said:

Get him Pimp C ...
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Shaolin Box · May 8, 2008

Pimp C said:

It's not PBF's job to challenge Cotto, he's the champion. It's Cotto's job to make an offer to fight PBF. Just like PBF went to 154 and fought Oscar on his terms just like Hatton went to 147 and fought PBF on his terms Cotto must do the same. Why the double standard for Cotto?

Cotto beating a limited fighter and mere titleholder at WW doesn't mean he's the man. In order to be the man you have to beat the man and right now that's PBF the Linear Champ at 147.:deal
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Pimp, You might be better off saving this post to just copy and paste in later as i'm sure this will come up 100+ more times before they actually get the fight on.

By the way, I agree 100% if that wasnt obvious! :good

Shaolin Box · May 8, 2008

BewareofDawg said:

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you're one funny *******...:rofl:rofl

Pimp C · May 8, 2008

Decebal said:

Cotto would be the man just like Diaconu would be the WBC Champ if Dawson ducked him by dropping the belt rather than facing him. How could Cotto beat Floyd to prove to you that he's the man if Floyd does his utmost to run away? Until Floyd agrees to fight Cotto, we should all assume Cotto is better and consider him THE MAN!:deal
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Dawson has nothing to do with this thread....thanks.:thumbsup
Regardless of what you say, team Cotto has never made PBF an offer. Do you expect him to sit around and wait on Cotto to make an offer? Hell no. He's going to fight Oscar in the meantime and get another megapayday.
Too bad your opinion is irrelavant because PBF is regarded as the P4P #1 boxer in the world and has been for the better part of 3 years, where have you been? Cotto isn't in his class nor has he done it long enough.

Decebal · May 8, 2008

Pimp C said:

Dawson has nothing to do with this thread....thanks.:thumbsup
Regardless of what you say, team Cotto has never made PBF an offer. Do you expect him to sit around and wait on Cotto to make an offer? Hell no. He's going to fight Oscar in the meantime and get another megapayday.
Too bad your opinion is irrelavant because PBF is regarded as the P4P #1 boxer in the world and has been for the better part of 3 years, where have you been? Cotto isn't in his class nor has he done it long enough.
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Currently, quite a few people regard the p4p No. 1 slot as VACANT!:yep Their number will grow!:deal

You are welcome!:thumbsup

Pimp C · May 8, 2008

BewareofDawg said:

Question #2

Does Oscars marked up face after the Forbes fight say anything about the amount of clean shots Forbes landed vs the amount Floyd landed? You have already stated Floyd has more power, so why was Oscar completely unscathed after the Floyd fight?
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His face was more scarred in the Forbes fight because maybe Oscar's declining defense maybe that with Forbes landing more combos than PBF did. I can guarantee you that when the two meet in september Oscar's face will look worse than it did in their first meeting.:good
With that said who said facial damage is any indication of who won a fight? Forbes put more facial damge on Oscar and lost PBF did less but gave him a boxing lesson. I still don't see why this topic is brought up for serious debate? Because it has little significance as to who actually won.

Scar · May 8, 2008

Decebal said:

Currently, quite a few people regard the p4p No. 1 slot as VACANT!:yep Their number will grow!:deal

You are welcome!:thumbsup
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What those people think means nothing and isn't official, when it's officially announced then believe it. :smoke

Pimp C · May 8, 2008

BewareofDawg said:

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:good

Pimp C · May 8, 2008

Shoalin Box said:

Pimp, You might be better off saving this post to just copy and paste in later as i'm sure this will come up 100+ more times before they actually get the fight on.

By the way, I agree 100% if that wasnt obvious! :good
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I agree.

Decebal · May 8, 2008

Scar said:

What those people think means nothing and isn't official, when it's officially announced then believe it. :smoke
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Officially announed by WHOM? There is no authority that has the power to confer that title.

I'm officially announcing it now, if that makes a difference to you!

Here we go:

I officially announce the p4p No.1 position is vacant.

:huh

BITCH ASS · May 8, 2008

Pimp C said:

The main difference I saw was the fact he was so much easier to hit in the Forbes fight. This may be because he had no respect for Forbes's power or it may be because he's starting to slip defensively. If it's the later he will be in a world of trouble facing the much more accurate and more powerful PBF.

Another thing was his lack of power. Although Forbes is a tough guy he was never really hurt badly in the fight or dropped. Oscar's power is not the same as it once was he should have been able to hurt a former 130 pound fighter like Forbes.

I don't buy into that Oscar's stamina has improved BS. Although Forbes was using good head movement he stood right in front of Oscar for the most part thus Oscar didn't have to use his legs so of course he's going to look fresh. Against PBF he will have to use his legs much more he will miss more which will tire him out not to mention the added stress of facing the best fighter in the game it will make him use more adrenaline and tire you out faster. With that said I expect Oscar to fade maybe even sooner than he did in the first fight.
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WRONG!

BITCH ASS · May 8, 2008

Why does one of the moderators, (scar), delete all my posts that I make about Floyd when I'm killin all the Floyd nut riders?

Scar · May 8, 2008

Decebal said:

Officially announed by WHOM? There is no authority that has the power to confer that title.

I'm officially announcing it now, if that makes a difference to you!

Here we go:

I officially announce the p4p No.1 position is vacant.

:huh
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Vacant it is then!

I now officially announce the p4p no.1 position belongs to Floyd Mayweather.

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