I have watched Hopkins-Wright for the 3rd time......

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  1. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    And I think that'll be the blueprint for Hopkins. He made Winky follow him around the ring, and Hopkins would turn the right hand over and catch Winky. He caught him quite a bit with it. That's his money punch. So I believe Hopkins will be slowing this fight down to the best of his ability, by following the Winky fight plan.

    Joe Calzaghe is susceptible to overhand right counters, as we seen in his fight with Kessler, but one major thing that stood out was Kessler's straight right compared to Hopkins......Kessler's straight right is much quicker, and he caught Calzaghe with it a few times.

    Will Calzaghe be able to avoid Hopkins straight right? And given that Bernard has nowhere near the same jab as Kessler, will he be able to keep Calzaghe at bay?

    Just a FYI: As this fight gets closer, I think it'll be closer than what most think. I don't think anyone will blow anyone out, or dominate. I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but I don't think so.
     
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    you watched it 3 times!!?
     
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    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    It killed me, but I wanted to refresh my memory. Haven't watched it in a few months.

    But after watching it, it just reminded me of the difference in handspeed between Kessler and Hopkins and Calzaghe-Hopkins. The hand speed is going to be a huge difference. And this fight was awhile ago, and Bernard is only getting older.

    I still have this feeling it's going to be a dirty, ugly fight. It'll be interesting to see how Cortez handles it......:yep
     
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    got a link to watch the fight online ?
     
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    I give you mad props for your endurence. How many cans of coffee and anti-depressives did it take?
     
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    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    The whole 5 or 6 part series is on youtube. Just search "Hopkins vs Winky".
     
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    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    :lol: If he wasn't fighting Calzaghe, I would only have watched it once, trust me.

    Granted, it was late at night, and I was bored......:yep
     
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    :good and :rofl :rofl
     
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    I think he may've been the guy a few years back but he looked pretty old against Hopkins.
     
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    But if Calzaghe uses the same strategy that he used against Kessler in the middle rounds, which is to stay on the outside and potshot Hopkins with quick jabs and left hands, then Hopkins won't be able to land that counter. If Calzaghe goes balls out and tries to close the gap on Hopkins then I think you're right, Hopkins will do pretty well.


    btw i thought Winky vs Hopkins was a decent fight
     
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    You are beyond crazy...
     
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    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    Yes, he looked very lethargic and slow. That stood out to me too. A shame, because I like Winky. One of the better ones in boxing. Although he doesn't belong at 170.
     
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    it's about time winky started paying royalties to michael watson with regards to his defensive style.
     
  14. Dorfmeister

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    The punch Hopkins calls a "Jersey Joe Walcott Shovel hook" is not a hook really... It's a straight right down the middle and he gets in position to throw that one because he creates the angles and the opening by moving side to side and making em square up. Bernard had some trouble in getting into position because Winky is very experienced to lead with his right shoulder in front and has that turtle defense in close.
    Kessler has to throw the left lead to set up the right hand and he throws that as a pure powerpunch. Only in the the fourth and before the series of right uppercuts, Kessler capitalized with jab-right hand on the back foot and caught Joe stretching forward and sliding outa position:

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    You have to watch closely how Hopkins moves back a step, stays out of range and switches his balance forward with the counter - he doesn't need to set up a right with a left, his lead shot is the right hand itself... Thru 6 rounds, Hopkins threw 45 jabs ( range-finders) and landed 5 on Winky. At the end, 143 of Hopkins' 152 total punches were powerpunches and the meaning of a powerpunch is of any other shot other than a jab...

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    Good analysis, but the speed difference is quite clear. Also, consider Calzaghe has better upper body movement and footwork than Wright. Calzaghe respected Kessler's jab, hence some of the patience you saw in that fight.

    It's against the rules of boxing, but Calzaghe is actually in his zone when he's able to drop his hands, use his upper body movement as defense, and fire combinations from all angles......Which I think he'll be able to do against Hopkins. (When he isn't being tied up)

    Regardless, Hopkins turns the right over like a pro, and is a good counter puncher......It's just the speed difference between Kessler and Hopkins that stood out to me.