I hope all you non-believers will be here on March 14th.. I tried to tell you fools!

Clottey is ****ing wank.

Pac's going to walk all over him and then you wonder why the *******s will go crazy.

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Clottey stands a very good chance of defeating Pac because he's got all the tools. Enough speed, enough power, tight defense, enough countering skills, enough accurate punching, good enough right hand, very good combinations and a solid chin.

Also Roach seems to be underestimating him. He believes he has a strategy and that Clottey fights one way and can't adapt. That Clottey is too slow and that all Clottey's success against other southpaws are not significant because Pac is one of the best southpaws ever. Well he's going to be in for a shock if he thinks that one strategy will be the only one he needs against Clottey and that Clottey's successes against other southpaws are not a proof of how he can handle Pac. He's going to be even more shocked at how much faster Clottey will be in relation to how Roach thinks. Roach will also be surprised at how Pac will be effectively timed and countered during his in, out, lateral movements despite all his foot speed.

Luckily Pac is not underestimating Clottey, he's not saying Clottey can't hang with him because of his hand and foot speed and powerful left, he's not saying he's going to do this or that to Clottey. He is saying Clottey has good defense, can take a punch and is strong. He is not promising a win, just promising a good fight. He watches the tapes as does Roach and he knows he is in for a tough fight.

Pac is not a slick boxer. He can't slip punches effectively. This is where we'll see whether speed and volume can overwhelm a tight guard defense without taking too much fire in return.

 

I've rewatched nearly all of Clottey's recent fights since this fight was announced and doing it has made me become a bit of a fan. He absolutely smashed Judah and Corrales with some great defensively-crisp power-counter-punching, was involved in a very close bout with Cotto (I won't call it a robbery; it was just a narrow-margin fight) and bust his wrist against Margarito.

The_Mediator has made some great points in his posts and this is far from a walk-in-the-park for Pac. If he's not careful, he could get sparked.

The trouble with all this is that, from my point of view, Clottey has a major, major problem: It's called the 10-point-must system.

10-point-must rates fighters based on four criteria: Clean punching; defence; 'ring generalship' and 'effective aggression'. The trouble as I see it is that, by the way modern scoring is typically conducted, Clottey rates off the charts on two of them (clean punching and defence) and barely at all on the other two ('ring generalship' and 'effective aggression').

There are four or five rounds in the Cotto-Clottey fight where it depends entirely which of those criteria you rate more highly as to who gets the round. And, from where I'm standing, Clottey's output is not high enough, particularly down the stretch, to give the judges a reason to give him rounds where he's arguably been more effective, but has been less 'dynamic' or obviously mobile in the ring.

This particularly becomes a problem when a fighter is in a situation where he's not 'the favourite' or the guy that's 'the name', as was the case in the Cotto fight and as will be the case in the Pacquiao fight. You have to give the judges reasons to overcome their natural impulses or to stop them being swayed by the crowd / situation, and Clottey just doesn't do this enough, IMO. He's his own worst enemy in this respect.

This wouldn't be a problem if he was a spark-you-the-f@ck-out kind of guy. But he's not. He's probably got enough power and clean-punching to do it, but his conservative fighting instincts mean he usually won't take the risk. This is going to play into Pac's hands. Pac's going to beat him points-wise on 'effective aggression' and 'ring generalship', and he's going to throw so many punches that a higher effectiveness isn't going to mean ****. It won't matter if Clottey's landing 20 power punches out of 40, if Pac's landing 28 out of 80; Pac will still take the 'clean punching' points too.

So, the short version is that there's little way I can see Clottey (as much as I admire him) out-pointing Pac, and it's only marginally likely that he's going to starch him out too. It's a sad thing because Clottey's got some of the cleanest and most effective power-hitting counter-punches in the business, but unless he sparks him out -- which he failed to do against Corrales, Judah, Cotto and Margarito -- he's not going to get much of a shot at winning.

 

Clotty is going to get clotted.

 

It's good you took your time to study Clottey's fights before breaking down the fight. You are being more objective because of that. A lot of fans haven't really seen a lot of Clottey's fights and are basing their analysis on what they've seen Pac do against other styles of fighters and what they've heard\read about Clottey. I have watched both Clottey's and Pac's last 5 fights and make my analysis based on that.

I agree with you on most of your points. Pac has the advantage in this fight because after all is said and done, even though he'll be less effective than Clottey, he'll be more dynamic\exciting and he'll be active and busy enough to sway the judges. My personal take is that Clottey will win the fight but lose the decision because his winning way will not be dominant\dynamic\exciting enough to sway the biased judges. Arum has always been biased against Clottey in Top Rank fights and that's not going to change this time, especially with Pac-Floyd\Shane in the horizon. Imagine 118-110,116-112,116-112 scorecards in the Margarito-Clottey fight.

Clottey will have to either KO or totally destroy and virtually kill Pac to get the decision and I doubt he can do that.

 

Clottey will get frustrated early and resort to the usual headbutting and punching below the belt around the third or fourth round.

The guy has 1/10th the heart of Miguel Cotto...sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on your part. You sound just as ridiculous as the fans who thought Baldomir would beat Floyd Mayweather.

Complete mismatch. Clottey will get discouraged early and fall apart mentally. The speed will be too much for him.

Easy 12round UD for Pac.

 

hahahahahahahahahahaha mister know it all hahahahahahahah

 

yup i agree

 

One this is for sure, Clottey looks absolutely massive at 147.

 

I hope all of you nonbelievers will be here on May 2nd.

Shane by KO.

 

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