I hope you listened

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by billy nelson, Aug 19, 2017.


  1. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Totally agree with the above mate
     
  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If he hadn't took the fight v GGG I think Brook Spence would've been a different fight, not saying Kel 100% wins but it would've been different
     
  3. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Would have been exactly the same fight - this is what happens when you feast on Frankie Gavin and Jo Jo Dans.

    You never keep taking steps to become elite and get pumped badly when you fight an elite fighter.
     
  4. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Probably not, would be my guess.
    Whilst i do agree that Crawford is a real good fighter, lets not forget that hes big at the weight and thats been a big part of his arsenal at 140. He wont dominate 147 like he has 140. Not just because there is better guys there but because he wont have the weight advantage.
     
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  5. Birmingham

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    He broke his other eye socket fella as a result of the GGG fight. Of course it would've been different. Hes mentally and physically scarred to the point he needs to retire !
     
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  6. Jim Jeffries

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    Brook was an elite fighter just ruined by GGG and was doing well in the early to mid rounds vs Spence.
     
  7. billy nelson

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    Kell hasn't been an elite fighter, very good by all means but he's fought and been stopped by two elite fighters.
    You can't go from the opponents he was fighting to GGG & Spence imo
     
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  8. Jim Jeffries

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    Nah you can't go up two weight classes get a broken eye socket and boil back to fight at 147 to defend your belt against a world class operator.

    You just look at things at a surface level. Porter was better than anyone Spence had faced in the pros at the time.

    I think Brook would've beaten Vargas, Bradley, Khan and potentially Thurman which would warrant him as being ''elite'' considering Spence only has one decent world class ''name'' on his resume in Brook.

    Brook just took the Golovkin fight for a payday but it has ruined his career potentially with two back to back injuries.
     
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  9. billy nelson

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    thurmann, Khan and possibly Vargas all beat kell, yes it was a good result against porter of coarse but what other top fighter has he beat?
     
  10. Jim Jeffries

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    Bollocks. Khan has no chin and has a low boxing IQ. His best win is Maidana who he *just scraped* by. A declining Bradley dominated Vargas for 11 rounds. Chris Algieri nearly beat Khan. Thurman would be 50/50.
     
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  11. boxingcrazy

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    agree with thurman but imo kell beats khan and (jessie) Vargas pretty easily although after the injuries sustained in last 2 fights I think kell might be finished especially at the top level:thumbsup:
     
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  12. billy nelson

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    Kell has been a very good fighter and I'd personally like to see him retire
     
  13. Odins beard

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    Kell destroys Khan.

    Considering Khan's handpicked career if he thought he could beat Kell, it've happened be now.
     
  14. yesihavearm2

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    Thurman probably, but not Khan or Vargas...come on now. Brook beats everyone at WW who aint Thurman or Spence.

    And it's not like he disgraced himself vs Spence, he was up on the cards after 7.
     
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  15. boglemcneep

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    Khan has that very special mixture of stupidity and arrogance that will see him file for Bankruptcy before his divorce goes before the courts.

    Career down the toilet due to wasting years chasing ridiculous opponents that he would have no business being in the same building as, and then demanding an astonishing chunk of the purse against those of a similar level. A total and utter fool.