I just read that Pac is all for OSDT Now..What changed?

In the 'real world', if the value of that house appreciates greatly in between the time you give your first offer and you KNOW IT, then you are full is isht.

If you are told the the deal you are being given won't be available next week, yet you come back next week expecting it still to be, then you are full of isht.

Not sure what 'real world' you live in, but leverage changes hourly. You think Michael Jackson paraphenalia on ebay cost the same thing the day after he died than it did the day before?

:mj

 

atsch

You aren't full of ****, you are negotiating, you tool. No one goes in on a house offer and offers the full price for the home unless there is a concern that someone will offer the asking price.

In the case of Pac/Floyd, especially in 2009, NO ONE was going to provide more cash for Floyd than Pacquiao. Not even close. Pacquiao felt affronted by the PED allegations and said "NO" as part of negotiating.

You guys want to claim that Pacquiao looks full of **** coming back with concessions to get the fight made? That's just ridiculous. I don't really give a **** what his motivations are for wanting the fight, but every time he makes a concession, Floyd puts another one up. He CLEARLY does not want to fight pacquiao or it would have happened a long time ago. You are ****ing DELUSIONAL if you think he's done anything to get this fight made.

The fact is, Mayweather doesn't want, Arum doesn't want it, Pacquiao was "take it or leave it" in 2009 but as his circumstances have dropped, he's made more concessions to get the fight done, but Floyd hasn't done anything to get it working.

Again, everyone wants to point out how full of **** manny is for agreeing to OSDT when in reality, Floyd is full of **** for putting one demand after another up. You have to leave your promoter? What the hell is that? :rofl Now THAT is a load of Bull**** if I ever heard it.

 

google USADA counters Conte assertions

Morales was caught. USADA reported it to their contractors. Neither USADA nor VADA can stop the fight.

ZERO cheats prevented entering the ring? Rios?

 

WHY DOES Mayweather have to agree to fight manny now, when manny turned down 40 million to go earn 8 million. No one has been able to to answer this. Mayweather accepted that bull**** demans of 1 millions a pound if he comes in over. When he asked drug testing it became a problem. We all know pac was on something as it shows that he hasn't been able to knock people out before the steroid allegation. The fight was not made so who cares let Pac go do him and let mayweather go do him. Why all of a seddun must mayweather fight Pac. Why turn down 40 millions to go get 8 to now want to fight for free. That charity **** is bull**** and you all know it. Mayweather makes no qualms about saying that he's all about the money. So let pac gives his own purse to charity as he choses to do and mayweather can do whatver the **** he wants with his money.

 

I just did, it addressed none of the controversies I listed.

Morales was caught yet allowed to fight, despite multiple failed tests. The commission was misinformed and told the B sample would come in too late to stop the fight.

Rios was caught for a stimulant. He probably took that right before the fight.

 

He did refuse .. Pac definition of testing was the following

1) tester would have announce when they where coming.
2) there would be a 14 day cut off date.
3) Pac would only agree to urine
4) Pac stated he did not know was peds where .

The first three pretty much says "NO, I will not submit to Random testing".

 

He stopped doping after Margarito

 

IIRC, Morales failed a few samples but tests came back negative for other samples before the fight. USADA took precaution to do more testing rather than to incriminate Morales wrongly. That's why the B sample came too late. The point is he was caught and they gave the fighter the benefit of the doubt. USADA has dealt with very rich and influential athletes who tried to sue them, Lance Armstrong, they're not going to incriminate unless they are absolutely positive.

The CIR method which caught Berto and Peterson is also used by USADA which is what Conte points to as the difference between VADA and USADA testing. Saying one organization is better than the other is bogus. Not that many fighters have tested under USADA or VADA and at this point in time is statistically insignificant.

 

Keith Idec reported he'd failed 3 tests. I'm not aware of any negative tests, they were considering giving him the contaminated meat waiver. At that point you disclose it to the commission and have them decide if excuse is valid. Apparently even USADA eventually decided it wasn't, but they let a drug cheat fight and potentially endanger an opponent.

I'm not questioning their procedures, only the built in conflict of interest, especially if you're willing to sign a no disclosure clause so that all results will be funneled through the promoter only.

 

We didnt see eye to eye in terms.

You ***gots stop living in the past.

Floyd doesnt even remember blood test.

 

welcome to 2010

 

He did not believe Marquez could knock him out cold like that w/o the use of PEDs, my opinion. Every fight before that the commission testing was fine after that he wants random testing for his fights. There is some irony in all this.

 

And when your attitude is, as you point out, 'take it or leave it', then you come back to 'negotiations' after you've LOST LEVERAGE wanting to agree to previous terms offered, you will look like a dayum fool.

If your arrogance causes you to tell that homeowner 'fugg you and this house, I don't have 'bow down' to your demands', then you're back weeks later because your 'circumstances have dropped', don't expect nor will you receive ANY sympathy.

:nono

 

Nothing will change the fact that Manny walked away from the fight because he did not want to give a few drops of blood.

blah, blah, blah . . . he didnt want to be dictated to . . . blah,blah . . . Holyfield roled up his sleeve without blinking an eye.

blah, blah, blah, . . . he didnt want floyd to dictate all the terms . . . 10mill/pound

blah, blah, blah, . . . it makes me weak . . . but against rios it is fine.

After you walk away from an agreement if you walk away from it, do not expect it to be waiting for you years later.

Manny wanted the same deal in 2012 but he was not even close to be on the same level as floyd at the time. He would take 40 mill back then but that 40mill would have done a lot for charity and Manny would end up with nothing like he currently suggest

 

Well if once upon a time he just agreed to the test like basically any other fighter would then we'd have had the fight already. And Mayweather was very fair with those first negotiations. Offered 50/50. Worked on a cutoff date that was fair for both sides. Pac refused and went on to fight Clottey. Yet Mayweather gets all the blame

And for the record I'm not a *****. I know Floyd hasn't helped the fight get made since. But if the roles were reversed, and May refused drug testing. YOU KNOW you'd be ripping on him saying he's hiding something, etc. Funny how biased people's minds work.