I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lmao!! the one sure way to know if my comments are effective and matter, is how much it upsets the incels who come here for validation, lol.
     
  2. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't listen to this *****, he's knows **** ...
     
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  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glad you feel validated , bowt the only you do feel ,now **** off...
     
  4. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Compubox had Canelo outlanding GGG in round 6 in total punches by a significant margin. 23 punches for Canelo only 16 for GGG"...Oscar was pressing the button...bet he wouldn't now ...???
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    aaaahahahaha! the little insecure basement dweller comes at me, gets his lip split, and now wants me to go away.:risas3:
    who would have guessed that would be the outcome, lol.
     
  6. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone remember "Spot the Ball"...
     
  7. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Get some new material , your boring & dull... end off goodbye ...
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yeah, cause youre all about the creativity, arent you, lol? fricking imbecile has no self awareness.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    So you completely made up your own scoring method?
    :lol:
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Subconsciously they are calling for me because otherwise it's just a GGG echo chamber with no resistance. They need my critical thinking skills so their theories are tested and they have a chance to defend their arguments.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its not subconsciously. they know very well what theyre doing. first they gathered up all the reenforcements. the guys they know will back them when the belly starts aching, then they call for you, so everyone can agree with them when they start the stone throwing. its not hard to understand what types do this and why.
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By awarding 3 points to a Power shot that mostly lands clean, you're creating a threshold then treating it as an all-or-nothing score or no score. What about a power shot that is half block, half landed? What if it half is blocked by the glove vs an arm? There are levels to every punch, what you're trying to do is get many of Canelo's power punches below the "mostly" landed threshold and award them zero points. But many of his power shots at least landed somewhat and to be fair you have to give credit to power punches that are half landed, half blocked and weigh them depending on various factors like if it was blocked by the glove or the arm (glove is better for the defender) and how much force the punch had on it even if it was partly blocked.

    You don't have to give Canelo full credit for partly blocked shots but there needs to be some credit if it lands somewhat or if it's only partly blocked by the arm. If something is cleanly blocked by the glove that's a block and it's better for the fighter who successfully blocked. If it's half blocked by the glove and half lands, it's still better for the fighter who threw the punch. If it's half blocked by the arm or elbow and half lands to the body, it's better for the fighter who threw the punch, but the fact that it was intercepted by some arm or elbow does take away its cleanness in landing. For one, half landed body punches still need to be credited. If one fighter is not throwing to the body (GGG) and the other fighter is (Canelo) the fighter who is landing or half landing to the body deserves credit. Half landed body shots even mostly blocked by arm body shots are still effective punches. There are many punches in the rematch that could fall in the "half landed, half blocked" category and thus not deemed clean. Also credit needs to be given for a fighter who throws more combinations. Canelo threw a lot of combinations many of which were blocked or half blocked but still as a combination of half blocked half landed punches is still a scoring flurry of punches.

    I think you make a fair argument about the left hook by Canelo being blocked in the 6th round. You calling that a block isn't unreasonable, I would call it "half landed, half blocked" and I think you have to reward blocking with gloves differently than blocking with an elbow especially on a forceful body shot like that. You have arbitrarily created a scoring system that doesn't even differentiate between clean power punches and "mostly" clean landed power shots. Of course there's a difference. And you have varying levels of power and varying levels of landing clean. You could have a clean hook that lands but has no power. I know GGG had a bunch of these on Canelo. Then you have Canelo landing a clean hook with tons of more power but you may not deem it "huge". If you're giving a light clean landed hook the same points as a harder clean landed hook, you're not crediting what's happening accurately.

    If you want to document your scoring of the match, you would really need to provide time stamps on every punch that landed that you counted and how you scored each punch. Based on the time remaining in the round. You don't have to include missed punches, and we really only need to examine the rounds that we disagree as to who won the round. So which rounds did you score for GGG and which rounds did you score for Canelo? We should start there then examine which rounds we disagree on, then go into time stamps of which punches you say landed and how you scored them in your system for those rounds we disagree about who won. That's the only real way to get to the bottom of it.
     
  13. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Canelo ever got totally shafted on any scorecards we all know you'd hypocritically go absolutely mental.
     
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  14. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair those metrics should suit the flashier puncher in Canelo but no matter which way you spin it GGG easily won the fight.
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's just the definition of being a troll Bandeedo. You validate your posts by how upset others get.
     
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