I just want to see GGG get some QUALITY WINS!

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  1. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    The three top guys actually have to KO him first though. Saying they would do it is not the same as them doing it - Ward I think beats Golovkin though not without some difficulty - I wouldn't be expecting a KO tho.

    Froch vs Golovkin is the fight I'd really like to see, I see this as being a really hard fought bout with some success on both sides - the guys actually fight close to the same weight and whilst Golovkin gives up a little in reach, he's the more technically proficient fighter. Other than Kovalev - Stevenson, there's probably no fight I'd rather see right now.

    IDK - who do you have as #3 SMW? Y'Know - f#kkit - I'd quite like to see GG vs GGG, this makes for a real exciting fight. A KO would be a real possibility from either side and Groves' speed and power would really force Golovkin to exercise some caution.

    As for Golovkin 'making a career out of' journeymen - well that's the whole point of the thread innit? You see this as a deliberate policy, others say that he's tried to get the better fighters but been refused - you know the arguments already, so I won't rehash them. The main point is that Golovkin -although the prefered opponents would be the Macklins, Geales and Murrays (and he's shown how he can perform at this level) - has to get the exposure in the US mainstream that he lacks through having had a European based career. Only then will the money become available to get names like Froch or Ward (or even Maravilla) in the ring.

    For the final point - well, there ya go - we're pretty much in agreement - there are guys who fight between 154 and 160 - Kirkland, Rosado (obvs) and plenty of others, but anyone who could potentially land a FMJ fight (and of course gonna be fighting on SHO anyway) has no good reason to fight at MW.
     
  2. Nay_Sayer

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    The three biggest names @ 168 are Ward, Froch and Chavez. All three KO Golovkin if he ever dares to move up...
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

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    The Winky that Quillin beat is not a better victory than Macklin or Proksa. Or Rosado or Stevens, probably even.

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    Quillin's an odd one. Sometimes he looks great and I like what I see and then literally moments later I'll be disappointed by not being able to do anything with it. Sometimes I think he has good power and then sometimes I don't at all. Honestly I think Quillin vs. Geale is a much more competitive match than Quillin vs. Golovkin.
     
  4. Xelloss

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    I think GGG is a worse matchup for Froch than GG, though I too want to see the fight. The problem Froch has is his center of gravity is too high and his punches need lots of distance in front of his nose to get any power. Ward exploited that very well. If GGG could reliably work his way inside, Froch is in for a long night.

    Groves seems like a tougher fight, style wise for Golovkin than Froch IMO. Groves has close to equal power, more speed, is technically proficient and seems dangerous at the same distances Golovkin is so I think that makes for a very exciting matchup in terms of seeing an explosive, high level, technically proficient FOTY candidate fight. Technically proficient FOTY candidate fights are pretty rare but I think "battle of the G's" would be one and the absolute cant-miss fight.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

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    While I'd pick Ward and Froch, I really do find it hard to believe Chavez Jr. beats him regardless of any size. The kid just isn't very good. Bika I'd pick to beat Chavez Jr for sure, if unpopular judging wasn't an issue.

    Groves vs. Golovkin would be the ideal SMW debut fight for Golovkin in the ideal quaalude world that we aren't living in.
     
  6. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward does not do that "KO thing", picking him for UD is however pretty reasonable. JCCjr got outboxed and outworked by Vera, and is a level below GGG. Groves would do a number on the JCC we have seen lately. So would Froch.

    Froch could possibly KO him, if he can keep him at range. Would he manage that, or would GGG slip inside his power envelope? Honestly need to see the actual fight to know that one.
     
  7. Koba

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    :lol:

    Groves - Golovkin would actually be a really good fight, and one that could, perhaps be made if Froch won't do the rematch. Groves is riding a wave of popularity, but probably doesn't have many fights that would pay him more than GGG. Given his performance against Froch and Golovkins inexperience at 168 he'd probably consider it a worthwhile risk - so it's actually not that implausable.

    It's a fight I'd love to see, any road, and would give a real clue as to Golovkins potential standing at SMW.
     
  8. Koba

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    Fatass - sorry, Chavez? The same one who got beaten up by Vera?

    Why would you think that?

    If - and it's an almighty if - Junior could get back into shape and show some commitment, he might be able to make it a competitive fight.

    Froch I see as a relatively even but potentially brilliant fight - the possibility of a TKO (from either) but IMO most likely a GGG points win.

    Ward I see probably winning but I'm pretty sure on points - I've seen nothing at all to suggest Golovkin's likely to be stopped - despite the pressure style he's actually very cautious with the risks he takes.
     
  9. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, some quality fights I'd appreciate at this point. Not sure if they'd turn into wins because he hasn't fought anyone with a pulse yet to convince us of his quality but we'll see. Time is ticking though and at 32, he's not gonna get better with time unless he's taking the same stuff Martinez and Hopkins took.
     
  10. shoe

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    this is at least your 3rd thread crying about triple G. can't you find something else to cry about? :hi:
     
  11. shoe

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    come back when you have a pulse and so get oxygen to whatever brain cells you supposedly have.
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    Chavez walks into the ring as a Cruiser and Golovkin is there to be hit.
     
  13. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh no he's getting abusive because people are critical of his unproven mancrush. :|
     
  14. Nay_Sayer

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    Baby Chavez walks into the ring as a Cruiser and Golovkin is there to be hit.


    Not going by Golovkin's resume. He hasn't beaten anyone near Froch's level. Froch's resume, OTOH, sh1ts all over Golovkin's. Froch has already beaten guys with a bigger punch and better skills.


    Golovkin is there to be hit and Ward gets to tee off. Again, we haven't seen Golovkin in the ring with anyone on Ward's level - and I think that's by design. Golovkin is being protected. I just don't think anyone coming up from 160 who can't fight off the back foot goes the distance with Ward. He's too sharp, too quick and too smart for Golovkin and holds ALL of the physical advantages.
     
  15. Mr Pibb

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    :lol: