I just watched PBF v Judah & Cotto v Judah..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ashy Knucks, Dec 13, 2007.


  1. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have Mayweather's performance against Judah as one of his VERY best in his whole career, and also think that Mayweather had an easier time with a better Judah than Cotto did. Both had trouble in the first few rounds, only to take over and dominate in the end, stopping their opponent (I'll explain later).

    As much as I'm sure others will say otherwise, Mayweather-Judah was as much a TKO 11 as Cotto-Judah... For the blatant low blow Judah did (one of the worst I've seen in a LONG time) in round 10 was CLEARLY to prevent himself from being knocked out in round 11 (first and foremost, he woulda preferred to have been dq'ed than ko'd). No other explanation. And I won't forgive a dog, cause that was a completely dog move (by hitting a guy low in order to prevent yourself from being knocked out)... Watch rounds 8 and 9 and 10; Judah don't wanna be there no more... But of course someone's gonna try and defend his actions, yeah?

    Cotto's performance against Judah was very very good, nonetheless.
     
  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    now the floydboys are changing a decision to a tko in the 11th :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    please man, floyd wouldn't of ko'd judah...ya'll are acting like if he was banging him from post to post....ahahahahahahhahaahah

    the only thing that was going on was that floyd was actually clearly winning a round.....that's it
     
  3. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I watched the fight. He was close to being knocked down but you cant say he was def close to being taken out. He was knocked down by Cotto what 2 or 3 times. I remember Floyd being very cautious in that fight and only started landing clean punches in the second half while Cotto was relentless from the opening bell, walking him down and beating him up like he stole his wallet.
     
  4. Lindley

    Lindley Member Full Member

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    I think Zab Judah has the skills, but lacks the dimensions of "the complete fighter". A complete fighter makes adjustments and has that ability to wear opponents down. I think both Cotto and Mayweather have this ability. I think that Zab should get a different trainer, someone who will push him to train harder for the long haul of the fight instead of just trying to impose his will so early. Zab can box, but he has too much attitude and ego. As was mentioned it was clear in Zab's fights, including Baldimor, that he comes to some point of decline. You can clearly see a tide change in those fights. With Mayweather, it was definitely that the accurate effective punches were coming if Zab moved his hands. With Cotto, the thunderous shots. And with Baldimor, it just looked like he tried too hard to score a knockout that he was "lost" (and fatigued) by the middle rounds. He should have easily boxed and jabbed his way to a victory over Baldimor for a win.
     
  5. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zab has the talent but he is stupid. Look at Floyd he fights smart. He lets his opponents take initiating at the beginning and tries to figure them out, preserves the energy. When have you see Zab do that? He always starts off aggresively trying to take his opponent out in the first 4 rounds, then he has no plan B if plan A doesnt work.
     
  6. James

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    Cotto took away's Judah's confidence and dominated in a much better fashion than Floyd did to Judah.

    Floyd was getting smacked up, Cotto only got stunned once and recovered from there. After that he proceeded to dominate.
     
  7. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jesus man ,, Floyd didn't have a mark on him , cotto almost got knocked and needed hit Zab low to keep him of him..

    Floyd walked straight towards Zab and was never in any trouble , even the round he lost Floyd was in complete control of Zab
     
  8. James

    James Member Full Member

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    Stop making up bull****; the low blow didn't really have much of impact on the fight, Cotto was going to dominate regardless with or with the low blow; if the low blow was such an impact why did Judah jump right back into the fight? Cotto got stunned but RECOVERED after, and Judah couldn't hit Cotto after that cause Cotto was making him countlessly. Please re-watch the fight.

    Floyd would die on impact if he walked toward any of Cotto's punch. Cotto is a totally different level boxer. Floyd's weaknesses were expose in this fight for sure.

    [YT]din0rds-EfI [/YT]
     
  9. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    How can you say "stop making up bull****" and then go on to say that Floyd would "die on impact" if Cotto caught him? And what are these weaknesses that were exposed in Floyd's fight?? If Judah exposed his weaknesses why did Mayweather nearly knock him out? Furthermore, so what if Floyd has a weakness?

    Can Cotto exploit it?
     
  10. Theo

    Theo Active Member Full Member

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    how can you compare it? Cotto smashed Zab in the nuts so many times it was hardly a good reflection of a fight.
     
  11. Speak.King

    Speak.King Member Full Member

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    By Cotto, Zab was being beaten from pillar to post in the later rounds. Say what you wanna say about that beating and him running out of gas. If he was more offensive Zab wins the fight. He totally stop throwing. Credit to Cotto. But you just simply can't take a one-sided ass whipping.