i kinda hope calzaghe win for the sake of the uk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Apr 16, 2008.


  1. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he fought in france as well:good
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Calzaghe has fought outside the UK exactly the same number of times that Hopkins has fought outside the US. By Sunday it will be more.

    How hard is it to check things? Or just read previous posts in the thread?
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Your argument is that if Hopkins was British and had fought Jones in the UK he would have won? :lol:
     
  4. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    you do relaise Joe is Welsh? You do realise he fought Englishmen in England dont you? (Reid, Woodhall, etc etc) A welshman fighting an Englishman in England would be alot tougher that any atmosphere the yanks can make this weekend!
     
  5. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    Hopkins keeps telling us he's a legend, but the guy can't even sell a few thousand tickets in his own counrty.:lol: ....THAT'S how boring and overrated he is. Some ****ing legend.
    If he beats Calzaghe I'll review my opinion of him, as for now he's a bully whose best wins were against guys dragged out of their weight range....he couln't even handle Jermain Taylor in 2 fights for christs sake.
    Calzaghe will beat the dirty old ****er.
     
  6. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you have to come to the us to prove your worth, i did not make this **** up in my own head.if that was the case nobody would make a big deal about jc fighting out of the uk.or i must just woke up on the wrong side of th bed today and just want to get some **** started, yeah thats what it is im triping.

    dont listen to me, its all in my head.jc should have stayed in the uk and retiredin the uk and he would have went down has the greatest UK fighter ever notice i sayed Uk fighter.

    you think if a guy was in the us with the same clout as joe would be considered the best us or the world ? now to keep the argument going of course you will say the us but you and but know it would be considered the world.

    like i said, i did not make up the rules but i know how the game is played.you can feel is ****ed up or biased against the uk and there fighters,oh well !

    it is what it is !
     
  7. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    a ***** for getting inside the ring to fight?

    i'd like to see you take one punch flush on the face from the likes of echols.
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    platnumpapi, on another thread you were trashing Calzaghe's resume, but now you're saying that it's only the location of the fights that was the problem, and that if only the fights had been in the US he would be considered the best in the world?

    Interesting.

    I'm also still waiting for your rationale on how if Hopkins was British and the fight had been in the UK, he would have beaten Roy Jones. Looking forward to hearing that one.
     
  9. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    probably not, god try though no decent try :good


    castillo never fought in uk, you dont have castillo and cottos and shanes
    all those type of fighters in the uk.you have to compe of work.

    in the uk you have hatton and joe cal and LL.

    mayweather would not have fought castillo in uk cause theres no one there like him, he would have fought hatton though.i wonder what would have happend :huh hmm :good
     
  10. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i did not trash joe cal resume, joe cal trashed his resume by staying in the uk all those yrs.im stating the obvious, well obvious to the rest of the world.

    he can be proud of his resume all he wants just dont compare to hopkins.thats when i trashed cause some fools asked who had the better resume.

    and hopkins is not british and he loss to roy who is an american.all this if **** dont fly with me.

    if if was a 5th we would all be drunk :tired
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You made the claim that if Hopkins was British he would be undefeated and said that 'im not talking race im talking backyards', not me mate.

    I think the argument's utter hogwash. Apparantly you've now reached the same conclusion.
     
  12. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not if he was british if he fought only in the uk, it dont matter were yo from but it does matter were you fight at.the us is were the big dogs are at.

    i would same the same thing if a fighter came out of africa or china or anywere else.if you aint fought in the usa then you aint fought the best.cause the best are in the usa not FROM but in.

    you get it now, not from but in.not from but iiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnn :hi:
     
  13. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see the ***** David UK has returned from another of his perveted trips to the beaches of southern thailand:lol:
     
  14. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe early in his career fighting an englishman in england would have been 10x worse than any hostile atmosphere he woudl get in the states in any fight.
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    But you're talking obvious ****. Hopkins/Jones wouldn't become a nothing fight if it had been staged in London. Likewise Kessler v Calzaghe doesn't gain kudos if it was staged in Las Vegas. Ali's fights with Foreman and Frazier weren't less meaningful for being staged in Kinshasa or Manila. Hatton fought Tszyu in Manchester when he was universally seen as number one in the division and top three P4P. According to your theory, that fight couldn't happen.

    Your base point is on target, if overstated, that often, in a lot of weight divisions, a fighter has to fight in the US to take on the best fighters. To extrapolate from that though that no fight outside the US can possibly involve world class fighters is clearly ridiculous and demonstrably wrong.