I knew Josh Taylor wasn't all that when..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Jul 30, 2025 at 6:38 PM.


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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You put way too much emphasis into sparring

    Funny you talk about weight bullying but never bring up Josh Taylor who kept delaying his move up to welterweight and when he did lost

    Reality is Josh Taylor was always overrated and feasted on a weak division

    I don't care about sparring stories

    Taylor has zero wins vs anyone as good as Porter or Ugas and his prime was just as short as Spence

    And yes Terence Crawford would beat and likely stop Taylor at 140 too if he was still there and almost certainly stop Taylor at 147 if Taylor was a welterweight at the time

    Although I will concede it likely wouldn't be in as devastating of a fashion as Crawford did to Spence
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No I don't

    Because he wasn't a weight bully

    He weighed 149lbs vs Olivera and less than Rougarou on fight night

    He became a weight bully later in his career but he wasn't dragging fighters up in weight and world champions up in weight like PBC's tried and trusted formula

    But just so you understand I couldn't care less if he or anyone else weight bullies, holds like an octopus, or win gifts from the judges if it's against fighters from across the pond who do this. In fact I welcome it. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. I'm just being real with you

    He literally bashed Porter's head in Porter's own gym when he was a 7-0 140 pounder and Porter was a former welterweight champion and he dropped Ugas and sent him to the hospital with a damaged jaw :lol:

    Taylor was so overrated he became undisputed 4 fights quicker than it took for Spence to even win one world title and, unlike Spence he wasn't cleaning out 140 of all its 135 pounders and featherfists albeit Spence obviously cleaning out 147 of al its 140 pounders, and he actually fought many legit punchers who were career 140 pounders

    Crawford may well beat Taylor but, unlike Spence, Taylor doesn't have a glass jaw, get dropped by jabs, and have to buy time for his head to clear on 3-4 separate occasions by spitting out his mouthpiece after getting clocked by light to average punchers
     
    Serge, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46 PM
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  3. FrankinDallas

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    Lol you know people are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they bring up sparring sessions.

    No one with a record of 18-4 (he lost TWICE to a C level Catterall) gets into the IBHOF. Maybe the Aberdeen HOF. Maybe.
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney beats prime Prograis easily

    That fight had nothing to do with age

    They all most likely beat Prograis

    They all could beat Taylor

    He was never that good

    Teofimo Lopez would always most likely beat Taylor

    Just a much better fighter
     
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  5. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    You're an idiot, i cannot debate with idiots.
     
    TheShellofKell, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:53 PM
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  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor became undisputed in a weak division

    Right place right time
     
    Joeywill, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:53 PM
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  7. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Prime Regis Prograis"

    Hahaha

    Reality is like another poster on here said

    Taylor and Prograis were never that good

    It's not just a coincidence that when Haney and Lopez moved up they both got outclassed

    It wasn't just that they weren't in their primes


    They were inferior fighters
     
    Joeywill, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:55 PM
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Same can be said for Spence or Shakur. Weak divisions, right place, right time

    No matter how you try and spin it becoming undisputed in 18 fights, the record of all your opponents at the world level (from your 14th to last fight) being a combined 201-3, or 203-4 including the Catterall rematch, is impressive and, as said, he fought many punchers and wasn't dragging opponents up in weight
     
    Serge, Jul 31, 2025 at 3:04 PM
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  9. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    You smoking?
     
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  10. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    If sparring matter, why isn't martin bakole undisputed? If you believe that ***** he ****ed up everyone and they momma in sparring.
     
    Homericlegend03, Jul 31, 2025 at 3:56 PM
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    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    Sparring stories are the lowest form of boxing discussions I immediately tune out when I hear them.
     
    Homericlegend03, Jul 31, 2025 at 3:57 PM
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spence wasnt in a weak division so no and yes I give Josh Tayor his credit he just was never that good and never really seperated from B level fighters that much. Hes similar to Charlo
     
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  13. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    Thinking broken Spence was Crawford's best win shows me you DKSAB.
     
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  14. offshoot

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    Josh Taylor was excellent. It goes without saying.
    This thread should be locked cause it's over the line of trolling/hating.

    Short prime and a weird sudden regress, but when he was beating back to back undefeated world champions and top fighters he was a fantastic fighter to watch.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This is the only sane take. Saying "oh no, he always sucked" is obvious trolling, you're right.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jul 31, 2025 at 4:49 PM
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