I know Bradley is American but does that mean...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Arran, Jul 21, 2011.


  1. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    Nobody was quite as forgiving to Khan when he was trying to get more famous in American before taking the Maidana fight, he had ONE fight instead of Maidana and he was being called a coward, ducker and all sorts. But Bradley is making a smart business move... :patsch
     
  2. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    Read up a post or two.

    What the **** has it got to with nationality to decide if somebody ducked.

    Bradley called him out for ages and ages and ages, even accused Khan of running and when Khan was ready to fight, Bradley ****ing ran. That is DUCKING! What else can it be called?

    There are PLENTY of Americans and other people from all over the world that think Bradley ducked, don't be a ****ing idiot and try and belittle somebodies opinion and try and pin it on their nationality.
     
  3. Clayton Bigsby

    Clayton Bigsby Active Member Full Member

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    True that.
     
  4. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    :lol: there's no link to this story, just a made up quote. how can someone duck somebody when they actually fought them, even at 43 years of age?
     
  5. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    its a genuine quote dip**** :lol:

    of course it was a duck, bernard cowardly turned down a career high payday to fight calzaghe in america in 2002 and that is just fact, get over it.

    at the time, bernard had absoloutely no idea that he and calzaghe would again cross paths 6 years later in 2008.

    luckily hopkins felt a bit braver this time with the fight at light heavyweight, in america, with joe cortez refereeing, and with 3 american judges.
     
  6. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    The reasons why he turned down the Khan fight have been stated already. The reason no one mentions it is because Bradley, as good as he is, isn't that exciting, and people aren't is clamoring to see him, therefore not that upset that he's not fighting.
     
  7. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    The reason Bradley has not taken the fight is because he has been going through litigation with his former manament and promotional company (Gary Shaw). Plus it is believed that he is waiting to get a Pacquiao fight, he is/or soon will sign with top rank.

    Furthermore, HBO has a Tv fight deal with Bradley which he will reportedly make 1.3m. Therefore a figth for 100k more may not be as appealing at this moment for him.

    Remember before Bradley had two world titles, Amir Khan was the star with the cross atlantic appeal. Now Bradley has some power to negotiate.
     
  8. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is there any evidence whatosever that Bradley and Shaw signed a contract for the three-week extension? Everything I've read about the lawsuit indicates that Shaw had at best a verbal agreement from Dunkin in February, which clearly is not sufficient. Shaw might be butthurt that he couldn't milk Bradley for one more fight, but Bradley had absolutely no reason to take one outside of the window of time for which the contract applied.

    And no, the obvious decision is not to simply fight Khan and then become a free agent, because Bradley's value would be far more hurt by a loss in that fight than it would be enhanced by a win. This is not about simply waiting around for a Pacquiao fight; it's about trying to make sure he has a secure promotional future, something a loss to Khan would severely undermine.
     
  9. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny you didn't quote this subsequent article by Christ, which actually defends Bradley's actions: http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/5/25/2189578/timothy-bradley-next-fight-amir-khan-contract-gary-shaw
     
  10. Clayton Bigsby

    Clayton Bigsby Active Member Full Member

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    Not that I’ve seen. Which is why I said Bradley “agreed” a three-week extension, not “signed”. But for Shaw to proceed with such legal actions, there must have been some sort of verbal agreement that Bradley made to extend that contract. If he did do that, then he’s clearly going back on his word now.

    That’s exactly the point that everyone here is making. The risk of a loss to Khan is there, and he doesn’t want to take it. That’s sort of what a duck is, isn’t it?
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Sitting on the sideline WAITING for a big fight is just a terrible ****in idea. Tim Bradley might want to change his name to Tim Berto....
     
  12. Clayton Bigsby

    Clayton Bigsby Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly, he should have taken that improved 1.4 million offer and a further 50/50 split on UK revenue against Khan (which would have made it 1.8 million in total, approximately). It's not an amount he's going to see again against Khan if he fights him at a later date.

    If he took that and stood by his word, he would have been a free agent with no complications after July 23rd. He could have then signed for Top Rank, Golden Boy, or whoever. Shaw would have been a thing of the past.
     
  13. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No that doesn't even necessarily indicate the existence of even a verbal agreement. I find it equally believable that Shaw is going through with this because he's a spiteful ******* who's annoyed that he's lost Bradley. I'm fine with Bradley being on the receiving end of some backlash for talking so tough in the immediate aftermath of the Alexander fight, but the way people have reflexively believed everything Shaw has said throughout this process does not make a great deal of sense to me. He's not exactly a completely credible source here.


    If you're categorically against any boxers ever making any kind of risk/benefit calculation, then feel free to call it a duck. As the Christ piece I quoted in the post above indicates though, I think it's simply unrealistic to expect anyone in Bradley's situation to have taken a fight like that. But suppose we take your perspective; did you think Khan was ducking Bradley when he signed to fight McCloskey after Bradley had declared he was willing to go over there? For not even entering into negotations? If not, why?
     
  14. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you are right but every arran post is anti american so noone takes it seriously.
     
  15. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    your obsession with all things American borders on the pathological.