I know Floyd fanatics don't want to see Floyd vs Pac, but what about everybody else?

What the **** do I need to go to boxing record for? I'm not a novice who knows nothing about the sport so don't play that game with me.:nono I don't hold him not fighting slick athletic guys 135 and below because their were none really to be found. With that said Pac is fighting at 147 and at that weight there are top guys title holders who are athletic and slick who he could fight instead of no hopers like Clottey or Margo and that's what I've said all along Bradley, Alexander and Berto present him with different challenges and are deserving of a fight.

I want to see Pac fight a guy who he doesn't hold all the advantages against, if you have a problem with that then too bad, you hold PBF to that standard. PBF did it against Zab a guy who was a stylistic nemesis to him. Zab was a natural counter-puncher with good pop a good jab and the ability to beat PBF to the punch. PBF didn't have all the advantages in that fight and couldn't rely on his natural ability alone to beat Zab. He figured Zab out countered Zab, went to the body and broke him down that's the mark of a great fighter beating guys that hold stylistic advantages over you. Pac has fought guys who by his natural ability he has been able beat with speed alone because they can't handle speed. If PBF was doing the same **** Pac is doing he would be getting killed and you know it. Pac has had plenty of time to fight these guys and has had 4 fights at 140 or higher about to make it 5 but he refuses to fight guys who stylistically he doesn't match up well with and the gig is up I'm calling him out on it and will continue to do so, much to your dismay.:hi:

 

Nothing!!! You can't even pull up a list, yet you make that same ol claim time aftrer time even though it's been debunked countless times. Why the **** quote me if what you say has NOTHING to do with my post?

Here, try again, i;ll give you one more chance to save face and NOT look like a *****.

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I don't need a list you ignorant mother****er. What part of I'm not holding what he did 135 and down against him don't you understand? Why are you trying to bull**** me here Lance? I'm talking about at 140 and 147 where he's fighting now guys like Alexander, Berto and Bradley. Give me a reason why he refuses to face these guys? One is the unified champ at 140 the other considered the #1 ranked man at 140 and the other a belt holder at 147. Come on lance I ain't got all night for you to start spinning.:yep The truth is you can't rationally say why he hasn't fought these top guys but runs to fight Clottey and Margo instead. I got your ass over a barrel here and I'm going in.

 

Good post. People don't realize that Zab Judah by virtue of his style alone was able to give Floyd some difficulty. Zab isn't the best boxer, but having a stylistic advantage over another fighter can make a decent fighter look great. It's happened before with Tyson vs Douglas, Barkley vs Hearns, Ali vs Frazier, etc. The lesser fighter was able to have success over the better fighter due to styles. Then they twist into Floyd not being good against southpaws.

Zab folds under pressure, so of course Floyd's typical style isn't going to work as well against him.

 

Exactly and that's what I'm trying to get these guys to understand. PBF has proven himself against bad stylistic match ups where he couldn't get by on speed alone Pac hasn't done that yet and people should want him to face them and should be up in arms at the very mention of Margo. A guy he will be able to beat with speed alone it's bull****.

 

Bull****

pac has already tried to go up against a bad stylistic match up. See his controversial results over the counter-puncher Marquez.

 

and been mediocre on two occasions despite been the younger fighter

 

This what I be saying all the time. If people want to talk about Floyd being weak against southpaws, let's also look at pac having trouble against counter-punchers. Difference is Floyd ended up dominating every southpaw, but some people feel the counter-puncher actually beat emmanuel once or twice.

 

i havent seen the 2nd manny marquez fiught but marquez clearly won the 1st one.

if he got knocked down once instead of three times he would have won that

 

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! atsch

if one certain judge score that round right manny could have won the fight!!

 

JMM isn't athletic or fast. When in doubt Pac could always overwhelm JMM with speed.:deal Speed not pure boxing skill is what beat JMM he couldn't see where the punches where coming from.

 

you don't know **** how to score if you see it as a clear marquez victory.

 

pimp is showing his face again here.

after hiding his ass in that big ***** of floyd for a long time.

ey, pimp, hiding in that ***** of floyd seems to have deprived your brain of so much oxygen.

whereas before, you were simply ******ed. now, you are far worse.

 

i want to see the fight THIS YEAR! fuk the purse steroid bs. Make the damn fight. Where do you floyd fans get the patience for this?

 

how many years did it take to make the mosley fight again?