I like Canelo and I usually side with the fighter over the promoter but ODLH did a great job

Wtf

 

I don’t know why people are talking about De La Hoya checking in to rehab on the day of the fight as this stab in the back.

He wasn’t his trainer or cornerman, he had done his job at that stage.

 

He whooped GGG in the rematch, Gennady was beaten up like never before. I don't think anyone would deny who got more beat up in the rematch. And in the first fight who got hit with the bigger hard shots? The answer is GGG.

I was responding to a post that stated that at best Canelo should be only 1-1 vs GGG. At best Canelo is 2-0 vs GGG. The draw was not accurate, Canelo won that fight the judges just gifted GGG rounds that he didn't deserve. G was outboxed the first time, then he was out slugged him in the rematch. The first fight wasn't as much of a whooping, it was more of an outboxing clinic, but in reality he beat GGG twice, just didn't get credit for it the first time. You have every right to disagree but there's nothing pathetic about what Canelo did to GGG 2X in a row. GGG could not beat Canelo despite his fanboys talking all this smack about how he was gunna hurt Canelo. It didn't happen, Canelo impressed in how he fought and beat GGG with 2 totally different styles.

 

Canelo proved that he's the better fighter twice in a row. If you can't see that, that's your issue not mine.

 

You didn't dare claim it was a 'clinic' at the time of the first fight. You were spouting that could of gone either way BS.

Lie to us all you want but don't lie to yourself about what you were saying man.

 

wtf what? are you in denial of what Canelo did to GGG?

 

He put on a clinic. Do you even know what a clinic is? You can put on a clinic and it can still be close. How is saying that it could have gone either way BS? I could see how GGG fans were arguing that GGG won. There were a bunch of close rounds and depending on how you scored them you could have it either way. But it still was a clinic. It was a clinic in terms of how Canelo slipped so many punches and set traps for GGG, countering him with bombs like that uppercut on the ropes and landing a bunch of well placed body shots.

 

Already back pedalling. Weak sauce man. Everyone knows Canelo got two absolute gifts and your shilling on here changes that about as much as those of us having eyes saying the scorecards were obviously wrong changes the 'official' results.

 

A dentist of my acquaintance no longer uses any painkillers or anaesthesia in his surgery. Instead he projects posts about Canelo from Shadow and IsaL onto his surgery wall and relies on the intense feelings of cognitive dissonance they bring about to allow him to do his work.

There's a rumour that a certain Harley street heart surgeon of great reknown has conducted a full heart transplant using the same technique, but that's yet to be substantiated.

 

Ol Shadow off his meds again Counts every Canelo punch twice, and when Golovkin lights Canelo up, he gets sand in his eye. Every single time he watched the videos. Rumour has it Shadow has conjunctivitis at this point.

Funny how Shadow usually pops up when there's a Clenelo fight coming up. They better be paying you well. I hear Canelo doesnt like disloyalty.

 

He's a flat earther. Lying to themselves is a speciality

 

Pretty sure that can't be approved by the FDA. Sooner or later one of those patients is going to become a slack-jawed vegetable when they don't come back from their trip to the Twilight Zone

 

The biggest risk is if any of the surgical team inadvertently catch a glimpse of one of the posts. My dentist friend has to screen all his assistants to make sure they don't know anything about boxing before he takes them on. I've passed on several usernames from ESB to add to his shortlist.

 

Everybody knows that Canelo got "two absolute gifts"? If that's the case than why did so many people have Canelo winning the rematch? You're parroting my lines to start with, then saying that I'm shilling for Canelo when that's exactly what you're doing for GGG.

The first fight I can understand, Canelo was backpeddling a good amount, and if you went into the fight expecting a GGG domination I could totally see how you could score it for GGG based on expectations and who was coming forward. But that's not how judges score. If you paid attention to the amount of punches slipped and countered, then look at how long it took GGG to get into the fight (about 4 and a half rounds) and you look at how Canelo finished strong in the last 3 rounds, at best for GGG it's a fight that could go either way, at worse he was schooled by Canelo. And this shouldn't be surprising since before and after many GGG fans and neutrals had been arguing that GGG was no longer in his prime, which makes arguing that he deserved to beat a prime Canelo who put on the performance of a lifetime even more ridiculous.

So if you believe that GGG won the first fight, I don't have a problem with that. There were a bunch of hard to score rounds in there. That's why I said I could see it going either way. GGG was undefeated and hyped up as this killer knockout monster. I've made the argument several times that part of why it was perceived as a GGG win or could go either way was because Canelo made it look too easy, and did lower his output in the middle rounds where fights generally take shape. But whoever you thought won, no one can deny who was more impressive that night, who's performance was more eye opening. And with GGG giving away the first 3 or 4 rounds depending on how you see it, he was already in a hole to begin with when he started coming on in the middle rounds, and Canelo finished strong.

GGG was gifted that draw, but if you want to argue the other side of the coin that Canelo was gifted the draw then OK. Depending on which way you see it you could call the other way of seeing it shilling or whatever, but I think it has more to do with expectations and "punch counting" rather than paying attention to what was landing clean and who was the ring general in there, who was showcasing higher level defense, etc. In the first fight that was clearly Canelo. In the rematch GGG did showcase better defense but that was in large part due to how Canelo fought him, by coming right at him. I gave GGG plenty of credit where it was due in the rematch, I even gave him the 12th round and I explained why. So for you to accuse me of being biased or shilling for Canelo when I have gone out of my way to be fair to GGG is unwarranted. Both fights were close both fighters fought hard but Canelo proved he was better both times. If you disagree that's fine with me, but by disagreeing so hard that's you shilling for the other guy.

 

Why can't we disagree about who we thought won but maintain a level of respect when talking about the two matches? You know full well I've gone out of my way to give credit to GGG where it's due. However you scored it, I doubt you'd deny how impressive Canelo's performances were. Especially in that first fight, I mean you look at Canelo's body language compare that to GGG who was reaching all night it's really no comparison. It'd be like watching Erik Morales put on one of his prime footwork backpeddling clinics but then score it to the other guy for effort. GGG tried really hard in that first fight but he was exposed. And GGG learned from it, and approached the second fight very differently. But he had never experienced someone as skilled as Canelo, and he mis-calculated Canelo both times. The first time he expected Canelo to fight a certain way, and when he didn't fight as GGG expected, he looked like a fish out of water then cried about it after the fight with the whole Mexican Style stuff. Then in the rematch he wanted no part of a toe to toe war after begging Canelo to come right at him. This is how the history books have been written. Canelo conquered your hero, not once but twice. And I know it pains you which is why you try to come at me with your jibberish in a despearate attempt to discredit what I'm saying. It's all a guise becuase you can't face the reality of what happened. Canelo beat your boy, he took his O, he beat GGG up in that rematch worse than you ever imagined and you still can't come to terms with it.