'I`ll outbox Deontay and Fury!

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly Wilder's impressive KO's have been against guys not know for being durable or guys who were shot enough to be easily taken out. Szplika, Harrison, Scott, Liakhovich, Stiverne not exactly an impressive line up of chins. KO someone like Johnson in 2 like Joshua did, be the only guy to stop Chambers like Wlad did with one shot is far more impressive.
     
  2. Tankatron

    Tankatron Active Member Full Member

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    I couldn't disagree anymore with you if I tried. Wlads punches were more compact, shorter and sharper. Delivered in combination and delivered against a vastly superior array of opponents. Wilder has literally spent half his career caning Cruiserweights, former light heavies and even a few guys who started out at Supermiddleweight.

    Now that Wilder has finally stepped up the level of competition, the longer the fights are generally going. Also, his more durable opponents such as Duhaupas, Molina, Szpilka and Stiverne 1 have been stopped far more impressively and far quicker by the likes of Joshua and Povetkin. Prime Wlad under Emanual Stewart would have literally crushed Wilder in a few rounds, no doubt
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Szpilka was stopped more impressively by AJ and Povetkin, you mean they swere landing more shots because there is no more impressive way to be knocked out than the way Szpilka was knocked out by Wilder, AJ has never inflicted a knockout like that and as far as Wlad punching shorter and more compact, well that`s the reason he punche with less power than Wilder, he didn`t put all his weight into his shots, meaning they were more crisp and axcuraate because he wasn`t trying to punch hard, Wilder over committs which is a mistake but it also means he gets more on his punches also.
     
  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeĆ³n Mexicano Full Member

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    Aj s slightly better than the old wlad he fought and he got dropped in that fight but not as fast or strong as wilder
     
  5. Tankatron

    Tankatron Active Member Full Member

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    Where did I say Szpilka was stopped by AJ and Povetkin? I said "by the like of ". I know full well that Wilder brutally KO'ed him but, so did Jennings and much quicker. Wilder is reckless and someone half decent who can crack ie Joshua is gonna show everyone just where Wilders actual level is.

    Wilders been feasting on has beens and never was'es kind of fighters right up until Fury and he was given a boxing lesson by someone who is nowhere near his best. Wilders power looks other worldly because, in large part his opposition has been substandard for a belt holder. Not a single prime or fully prepared, top 10 fighter on his resume. Wilder looks great sparking immobile, overmatched or gassed fighters. When he sparks out the likes of Joshua, Whyte, Miller, Parker, Usyk or a whole host of young, hungry, fully prepared, prime up and coming opposition, then I might agree with you.
     
  6. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And don't forget boys and girls........Santy Clause is coming down the chimney on Dec 25th.
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    AJ has the mouth but does he have the stones to back his mouth up ??
     
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  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's not forget Fury DUCKED that version of Wlad for the rematch.
     
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  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Judges Doom, Dredd and Judy would do a better job Full Member

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    It's funny how pretty much everyone thinks the family trained Fury to be the better boxer than the olympic gold medallist. Who'd have thunk it?
     
  11. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First and foremost he and his manager need to sign on the dotted line. Been reluctant to take this big risk this far.
     
  12. Alphafighter

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    Sure he can outbox Wilder, but what will he do when he finally gets windmilled or hit by the right hand?

    Wilder has shown enough that he can handle AJ's power but can AJ handle Wilder's power?
     
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  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua easily beats Wilder, but I think he has his hands full with Fury, who's just zen-level in his ability to adapt to his opponents' strengths and neutralise them. If Joshua beats Fury he'll need to do it by breaking him down methodically, not just attempting to steamroll him, and he'll need to be prepared to lose rounds to work for the achievement of the end goal.

    A lot of his chances depend on how Fury proceeds from here. If he continues to train like a madman then Joshua's in major trouble. If he falls off the wagon and needs to build himself up then Joshua can capitalise on that.
     
  14. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Il Genio Full Member

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    In which fight was Wilder hit as hard as Joshua would hit him? If you're using the Ortiz fight I'm fairly confident that AJ would hit him harder and in combinations, multiple times. I honestly don't see Wilder standing up to that.

    Plus, although Wilder undoubtedly hits very hard, I've seen nothing to convince me that he hits any harder than Wlad, who many in the know see as the single hardest 1 shot puncher since Shavers.
     
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  15. expljose

    expljose Active Member Full Member

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    I thought he did last year i could.be wrong
     

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