I love MMA, but the one thing I wish could be changed is...

I dont think it can be changed really, perhaps it can be made less common. but only by a small degree.

If a rule was inforced that you could not strike an opponent while they were unconscious, by penelty of a dq, fighters would be hesitant to finish off opponents for fear of punishment. Many others would be caught up in the frenzy with their adrenilne pumping and get DQ'd.

It has to fall on the referee to stop the fight, better training perhaps. but then refs are human and will periodicaly make mistakes. Many bouts are already stopped early as it is...


I just think it is something that has to be accepted if you enjoy the sport. In the early days of mma it used to be far worse.

 

Well it's really up to the refs to stop those incidents from happening. Truth be told the same thing happens in boxing and worse: Emile Griffith/Benny Kid Paret being the worst example, others being Marciano/Walcott, Pernell Whitaker beating Hurtado through the ropes or even an old Marvin Hagler fight I saw for the first time the other day where he battered some Italian boxer while he was hung on the second rope.

 

Its really up to the fighters themselves. There's a small window of time between when the opponent has been rendered unconscious and when the referee can jump in, and its within this window that the fighter can chose to hit again or not

Same things goes for the submission holds. Now most would release the hold when their opponent taps, but just a look at someone like Palhares - it's as if he intentionally goes out there to rip men's knees out their sockets

 

I just think you need better refs or to train them better. Like boxing, some guys can come back from a shellacking. It's up to the ref to figure out if the guy is really hurt or not.

 

Let's not forget Mercer vs Morrison.

Overall, I think mma fights get stopped with less head trauma when compared to boxing matches. There is no stopping of the action when a knock down occurs, and giving the downed fighter a chance to recover before getting an opportunity to get hit some more.

I really don't see how some of the mma haters can call mma barbaric when compared to boxing and keep a straight face. Boxing has removed almost every aspect of a fight, except the part where the combatants beat on each other. The rules have also been developed in order to give the fighters a chance to take more punishment. Rounds were not originally 3 minutes long. A round use to end when a fighter was knocked down, and beat the count. If the fighter could not beat the count, the fight was over. If the fighter beat the count, the round was over. A round could have gone on for hours, or you could have several rounds over the course of several minutes.

 

Considering MMA's age this does I'd say tend to happen more often though, espeically when one guy is clearly out stone cold.

The ref's are sometimes a problem but some responibility has to be on the fighters if you ask me in quickly KO situations, promoters need to make it clear this isnt acceptable. I'd say that training may well be an issue, its notable for example that while Chute Boxe have/had a rep as savage *******s I don't remember one of their fighters giving extra to a clearly beaten opponant. Turn it round and Soko beating on Nortje as the ref drags him off seems like less of a coincidense given that he trains with Hendo.

In terms of actual damage I'm not sure these situations are THAT dangerous given that its hard to generate the same power on the ground even with dividing shots but if match like Hendo/Bisping had resulted in the latter being seriously injuried that would have looked terrible for MMA. In boxing theres always the "I didnt know he was out" excuse(whether honiest or not) but when a guys flat out on his back that doesnt really hold much water.

 

michael bisping deserved to get the diving elbow, i hate that b astard, i hope after he beats jorge santiago paul daley comes in and sucker punces him, rumors are hes one fight away from a ufc title shot, i hope he beats the hell outta santiago so he has be an appetizer for belfort, silva winner, after okami.

 

Everyone has something to bring to this conservation and in your case thats silence.

 

wow! thats an impressive display of stupidity:good

 

Well that's a rather subjective assessment. The only way to settle it is to post videos of all the incidents and ask people which is worse. But really I think that course of action would be in poor taste.

I responded that these incidents are more frequent in boxing and overall boxers actually suffer more needless damage than MMA fighters but you seem to have your agenda predetermined so do what you will.

 

I'd like to see a better standard of referees they are always so far from the action. Lauzon almost got his arm snapped off the other night because the ref was at the other side of the ring.

 

Any sport that has striking involved is probably going to have fights where a blow too many lands. Popkins named 3 from mma. Here are a couple from boxing:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvmFF1i3VTI[/ame]


Check out the replay at around 1:20:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpdeONftgaA[/ame]

I'm sure you can find some kickboxing examples as well.