This is actually what makes MMA safer than boxing. If a fighter is hurt and dropped in boxing they are allowed to take their feet and get hit again with full force inflicting serious damage. In MMA a guy is floored and then finished quickly even if it is with 'extra' strikes it is a relativley short period of trauma.
That maybe true but it doesnt mean that we can't believe that MMA fighters clearly looking to give "afters"(rather than merely following up on the ground agenst a hurt but not finished opponant) needs to be cut down on. Part of it is the image aswell, if a boxer has someone nearly out up agenst the ropes it simpley doesnt look as bad as Hendo. Jackson, Rampage etc landing shots on a clearly unconious guy flat out on the ground. The risk perhaps isnt perhaps much greater than the typical action we see but if that kind of incident resulted in a serious injury MMA would get terrible press from it.
One of the reasons I liked Mousasi is because when he sees a guy is finished, his job is done and he stops.
As I said I think its notable that guys with experience in camps known for tough sparring are better in this reguard, more mutual respect in the training and more experience of the situation IMHO. Going by rep you'd expect the Chute Boxe guys to me leaping in before the ref could stop them but really thats not been the case, Wanderlei for example backed off Tamura after KOIng him even though the ref didnt stop the match.
All you can do is have refs dive in sooner I guess. As GNP is allowed you can't stop the fight as soon as a guy hits the floor and many times in this case a floored guy can still go on to win so i don't really see how you can stop it. Split seconds in most cases. As there has been no injury etc I don't really think it's a problem.
If you think Hurtado falling through the ropes was as sickening to watch as Chris Sanford's unconscious skull getting smashed again and again and again, bouncing off the ground like a basketball, then I think you have a very, very different idea of what constitutes sickening from both me and the rest of the human race, but fair enough.
S'alright. I've always liked you as a poster, Popkins but feel that I've been arguing with you too much lately so I'll just bow out of this conversation and let it run it's course without me.
I remember watching the replay of this round my mums. She knew I watched MMA and always made comments about it (barbaric etc). She was disgusted when she saw it. I could not defend it. The sport has enough problems being accepted as it is
perhaps refs could have a remote control to the buzzer that ends the round, so they can quickly press that while diving in to stop the action, so the sound of the buzzer AND the ref diving in makes sure the fighter stops as quick as possible
Hey man, you are one of the best posters on the MMA forum without a doubt, you're welcome on my threads anytime even if we do find ourselves in disagreement.
That's actually a damn good idea which I've never even considered, because the ref could be buzzing it as he is running over, so the fighter would hear it right away, and we could avoid another couple of shots to an already downed opponent. Very good idea indeed amigo. :happy
A good ref should never be so far away from the action that he needs to buzz or run in. Refs should be agile enough to stay close but not in the way. If he is moving with the action he stays visible and as soon as he steps in, the fighters know unless they are cheeky. Reffing standards must be stricter. In MMA Big John holds classes which people should go to. Boxing needs it too.