As I pointed out in the other thread.... Wlad older, beat down, injury prone brother just had the same turn around for two fights a year and a half ago! If Vitali just did it... why is it so impossible for you guys to see that Wlad can do it? BTW.... Wlad doesn't do 12 week training camps. His camps are 7-8 weeks. That is straight from the mouth of his camp manager.
**** Vitali, this situation is completely different. Vitali wasn't against the clock like Wlad is with Haye. Haye's ****ing around and playing games, he wants to retire this year and it's up to Wlad whether or not it goes ahead. If Wlad ****s Chisora off and lets Vitali have that TV date, then he can fight Haye and smash him the **** up - Haye retires and everyone is happy.
Because even though they are related, Wlad and Vitali are not the same person. If they were, you would have a point, but because they are not, you are ******ed. Wlad hasn't fought two fights in two months in 11 years. He's fought 4-6months averaging 3 fights a year for the last decade like clockwork. An 8 week gap between fights doesn't give Klitschko time to recover, have a full training camp, and the do the media for the fight, which would be long and gruelling. Well what difference does that make? It's still an absolutely insane schedule that no sane man would make. My view on this is simple, he made the fight with Chisora (god knows why, no-one wants to see it) and is currently trying to spin some bull**** about fighting on July 2nd as well, but once the Chisora fight is done he'll say "sorry David we're gonna have to move the fight back to August/September coz I'm injured/cut/need full training/etc" that's what Haye is scared of happening, if he signs he's locked into a contract which could concievably see him on the shelf 'til September playing the waiting game. That's a far more likely scenario than a 35 year old deciding to risk his health and his professional reputation by doing something reckless and taking 2 fights in 2 months. Of course, all you Klitschko fanboys just see this as proof that Wlad is invincible, so confident he will go into the fight half trained and not fully focused and still smash him, whereas everyone else smells bull****.
No, it's up to Haye. Just because Haye is looking for a way out again... doesn't mean that Wlad hs to buckle to his ******ed demands. Haye needs to grow a set of balls and stop playing the role of a 16 year old valley girl drama queen.
You love that he is staying active needlessly at the expense of the biggest Heavyweight fight for years? :nut Weird Klit loving logic. The fight might never happen if Wlad goes ahead with this meaningless fight with Chisora. If doesnt happen Wlad should be torn to shreds by everyone on ESB for it, because if it was Haye the Brit haters on here would be savaging him, its double standards. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnF7x-oIO-U[/ame]
Hahaha, that's two one sentence long replies, conveniently not even trying to engage with the argument. Go on Widdow Maker, indulge me, explain to me why Derek Chisora deserves a title shot why this fight will be worth watching? Have you ever seen the guy box? He's a disgrace. A guy like Maurice Harris or Fres Oquendo or one of those level of fighters would embarass Chisora. Can you explain how Wlad and Haye will be able to do the media and promotional tour to the biggest Heavyweight fight in nearly a decade with such little time? Can you explain how Wlad is suddenly capable of fighting twice in two months when for the last 11 years he's fought every 4-6months like clockwork? Can you explain why a 58 professional needs a tune-up against a bum like Chisora in the first place? I don't see any need for it. It's not as if he got beat by Eddie Chambers after the 9 month layoff before that fight is it? None of your reasons and justifications stand up to serious scrutiny.
Haye has basically said it's Chisora or me, Wlad has chosen Chisora, end of. Hopefully Haye still fights him but with Wlad choosing Chisora I have a feeling Haye might just give him a big **** you. No worries for Wlad of course, just means next year he or his brother can unify against a lesser opponent.
I thought David Haye had met all the demands for the Wladmir Klitschko fight and it was just up to Wlad to sign it ?
no way does wlad take an 8 week training camp vs haye without any break after fighting chisora,no matter how easy and quick chisora fight might be,he would end up over training,or not training enough for such a hard fight vs haye,maybe even be fatigued after doing 2 fights so close at this type of age he is at. and haye has to fight chageav,and due to sky has to fight in may/june. he would have even less time,to heal/recover/rest and then have an even shorter camp for fighting wlad than wlad has for fighting him!. if some how both could fight other opponents sooner then maybe this fight still happens.do it,but not on thier tv networks. or if luckily tv dates and venue are there for August/september/early october then we can see Haye VS a Klitschko. lol,the klitschko will lose out not fighting haye though,they lose most money they could earn,they lose out on defining fights. Haye will attract the better opponents cuz he gives better contracts, opponents get more money, they get to fight on HBO, they get an "easier" shot at a title. meanwhile klitschkos stay in germany,fighting infront of silent crowds,boring them all to death vs the chisoras and sosnowski's of the division. in time when people look back at who haye fought,how he fought them,how many titles he won and in 2 different divisions,they will look on him as better than the klitschkos,only really fighting in germany,agaisnt nobodies or newbies and fatties,getting beat by nobodies will be their defining fights!