I miss the old Floyd.

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  1. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC6me0twjw[/ame]

    This highlight (made by the awesome reznick who posts on classic, subscribe to the man he does it right) makes me miss the old Floyd. Not just his attitude, but the way he used to move and box way more, and let his hands go. What happened to the offense, the way he used to put more leverage and rotation in his shots and combos? Pretty boy floyd>>>> money mayweather by far.
     
  2. Mr.Opal

    Mr.Opal Member Full Member

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    I've been saying this for a while now... Floyd is no longer in his prime. He's 33 not 23. However, even though he's not still in his prime, he is head & shoulders above everybody else.
     
  3. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    PBF was a visceral and intellectual joy.

    He is far more tactical now out of necessity as age is slowly robbing him of his physical prowess. And he knows this. This is why he has taken a little less risks. He wants to enjoy the fruits of his labor, since he has sacrificed so much since his adolescent days.

    If Money May cashes in regards to his fight selection in the future, I can't blame him. Though, you can't blame others for judging differently compared Pretty Boy.
     
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has smartly evolved. Fully aware of the fact that his body can no longer permit him to throw 4-5 punch combinations through the course of a 12-round fight, he's learned to pace himself and be more economical with his punches. It's served him brilliantly. When was the last time we saw Floyd gassed or losing a fight in the second half? Never.

    I still find him a joy to watch.
     
  5. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well put, a good way to look at this is that floyd doesnt have the legs he used to, thats why he depends so much on his upper body movement now. I think shane knocked floyds legs away.
     
  6. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    No doubt he's making the absolute most out of what he still has left in the tank for sure. But there are boxers who've managed to maintain a decent level of activity and energy at that age for sure. But I guess if you're taking 1-2 fights a year you can't really put yourself in that group.
     
  7. slantone

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    he was amazing at 135- and wouldve been too at 140- had he stuck around. he was active- threw alot of punches, stayed in the pocket, threw combinations and had ko power.

    what he did to corrales was a masterpiece.

    it irks me that people say marquez wouldve given him trouble at 135 - bull****. floyd was even more dominant at that weight.

    as he s gotten older and bigger hes had to adjust- but all fighters moving up tend to move less, throw less, defend more and are more conservative- its the way it is- but floyd has done it well. his style favours him as he get s older than a fighter like roy or sugars who relied so much on athleticism - and emphasised offence. his defencive emphasis makes him so tough to beat- regardless of age and weight.

    only manny has been able to retain his activity and explosiveness moving up- its hell rare. but floyd i think has gotten more confident as he s moved up. after the oscar fight- i think he felt he couldnt be beat- and that confidence plays a big part in his psycholigiocal warfare with opponents. gatti, zab, mosley - were all beaten in the mind before they even stepped into the ring. speed is the most intimidating thing in the world other than power , in boxing, but even more than that- is a fighter who feels he cant lose. what else is intimidating is a fighter like manny- who dosent need to hate, or be angry when he fights- he genuinely is happy and enjoys his work- and a relaxed fighter is always a great fighter- both those guys are so calm and relaxed in the ring - doing what they do best- which is why theryre the best two small fighters of the past 30 years.
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not to mention his hands. I bet they're telling him to take it easy, too.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    The Corrales highlight brought back memories ..I though Diego was going to KO him man what a surprise better yet what a clinic!
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think one of the reasons why Team Floyd suspects Pac of PED's is that Pac can still do things (like throw in fast combination) that Floyd can no longer do consistently, particularly at a higher weight class.

    That's unfortunate, that Team Floyd goes to the PED card because of this (not to mention that Pac is 2 years younger than Floyd). Some guys age better than others. Look at Calzaghe, who was still basically the same at 36 or whatever. Other guys burn out faster, whether from hard living or just genetics.
     
  11. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Inactivity will catch up to him before any opponent does imo. He's not in his prime now but people do forget that back then Floyd was a boxer/puncher. I've mostly preffered Toney in the ring but only wish he had a better work ethic outside of it.
     
  12. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I think that people say this because of how out of his range Marquez was at the time. Guy wasnt a 47 fighter. But I agree with you all the same. If anything I think that this version of Floyd is at a much much greater disadvantage against many than the early one- I would take the Corrales PBF to shut the Diaz Manny. Don't really feel that way anymore.


    Yeah what's the deal with that? Has he broken them before or something? I remember reading that somewhere. Might be part of the reason why he's a lot less hook happy and puts less weight into his punches now.
     
  13. Breakdown

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    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Numerous things:

    1. he got older and doesnt have the same stamina, he noticably slowed as he moved to 147 though
    2. Believe it or not he was brawling from 135-140 and got hit allot more, hes purposely trying to box more now and be cautious imo. His father said he was getting hit way too much when he moved to train with Roger, punches less leaves less countering opportunities
    3. Broke his hands multiple times so is more cautious with what he throws
     
  15. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    The way he used to mix short straight punches and unorthodox ones was awesome. Reminds me of Joe Louis.