"I never could of beaten him"

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Aug 29, 2007.


  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Louis was a subtle pressure guy while Marciano's was glaringly obvious. I don't think Louis would be able to do anything approaching his best with Marciano stalking him around.
     
  2. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After Larry fought Tyson, Tyson said "If Holmes was at his best, I wouldn't stand a chance"
     
  3. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Mike was just being very modest. Lets face it he has never been known for his honesty.

    "I didn't **** her"

    "I broke my back"
     
  4. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup, he's a lieing scum bag, but, in this situation, he happens to be partialy right, he does have a chance against a prime Larry, just it is very high.
     
  5. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    How do you see the fight unfolding?
     
  6. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson coming out with bad intentions in the first 4-5 rounds (like usual). Larry keeping away with his great foot work (something he didn't have in their fight), and flicking his jab in Tyson face. Then around the 6th round or so starting to take over landing his cross and uppercuts. Tyson gets cut and swollen and loses his will to fight. In the 12th round does something really stupid and gets a point or two taken away. Then, in the championship rounds Larry reallly starts to pound Tyson. Mike stands his ground, but is only eating leather. The ref stops it. Or Larry wins a ud 15.
     
  7. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know about Louis saying he would have never beaten Marciano but I read somewhere Marciano saying the same thing stating he would never beat a prime Louis. I'll try to look for it.

    Also Moore was convinced a prime Charles would have beaten Marciano it's in my sig.
     
  8. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Fair enough, I would have to disagree, but thanks for your prediction, appreciated.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah and all of that talk, no matter who it's from is total bullspit, and you know not to believe it. None of these men would be the true competitors in this sport with a defeatist attitude like that. Playing head games that's all. Every one of them believes he can beat the other guy. They wouldn't be professional prize fighters if they didn't. Maybe deep down before the bell, inthe ring before the actual fight, you know, the moment of truth, they may feel down in their bones that they can't defeat a particular guy, but they would never, ever say that in words.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We are talking post fight; and there is a tradition in boxing of fighters being very classy in post fight talk...

    You rob Tyson of this, you rob him one of the few positive things the man has done for boxing post Spinks...
     
  11. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson meant that in his current condition and state that he could never beat Lewis. The two of them sparred together back around 85' and it was a competitive bout with Tyson beating him up the first half and Lewis coming back the second. A Tyson of 87'/88' would murder Lewis in my opinion, but this has been argued too much already.
     
  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis was an amateur in 1985 and in 1987/88, of course Tyson should of handled him in them years...
     
  13. Sonny's jab

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    I agree. :good
     
  14. Sonny's jab

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    Yeah, that's how I understood it.

    Also, he knew Lewis and other interested parties would try to pressure him into a second fight (as had been agreed) and Tyson didn't want to get beat up again or fool anyone about his chances.

    I think Lewis did sue Tyson eventually for not agreeing to get beaten up a second time. Business is business, I guess. Always seemed like a silly and bizarre contract anyway, but Tyson was the ultimate cash cow and gravy train for everyone so that explains it.
     
  15. RoccoMarciano

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    Louis and Marciano could both have beaten Ali.

    1. Louis
    2. Marciano
    3. Ali

    :cool: