I only have one question for Pacquiao supporters and then I will leave it alone...

pac fans have no answers anymore....PAC IS DUCKING FLOYD or is on PED's.....pick one

 

**** YOU!

now go away!!! :hi:

 

he needs to for the same reason floyd has to pay 20 mil if he comes in at 149....both make demands...this one is just too much for pac though....heaven forbid he gives a teaspoon of blood within 30 days of the fight....that would be ridiculous....go fight malignaggi pac...at least u have a chance in that fight

 

ah yes.

aaron, jaguar and nallege. doing a three way for ellerbe and pbf to enjoy.

lucky us. wow, ESB. 3 dumb idiots of boxingdom.

the three dumb queens versus the three wise kings of *******land.

 

Why have none of you guys answered the question?

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195620

Originally Posted by AdiC

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Let's say you work your butt off as a construction laborer, a fireman, a janitor, or pretty much just any decent living making money through good old hard work. You worked yourself hard enough for you to get raises, promotions and bonuses to a point that one day you drive home with a brand new BMW- paid off!

Sounds nice doesn't? I should know, I myself purchased a luxury automobile thanks to hard work and skills. I earned it, and that's why I'm happy having purchased it.

Then next thing you know, you got some jealous neighbors spreading gossip around the block that you might be selling drugs for you to be able to afford an expensive vehicle because flat out in their opinion, your job as a (insert occupation of choice here, in my case a writer) doesn't pay enough for you to buy such things.

Let's say you brush it off, because it's stupid right? It's baseless, childish and pointless. Call it envy, jealousy or whatever. You know you're legit, so why waste your time worrying about what these gossipmongers say. Besides, what proof do they got, right? But what if they keep up the rumors even buying an ad on your town newspaper just to tell the world that they think you're dealing drugs to pay for the luxuries you have in life.

Tell me, how would you feel?
And out of nowhere they ask you to go out of your way and inconvenience yourself just so you can disprove their baseless accusations for their benefit. I mean, some people might just go ahead and do it, I don't know about you, but to me, that's absolutely BS. It's not as if you're not willing to show them your pay stubs and show them how you earn your money to buy the things you own, you actually are willing to, but they also want to put you on surveillance and constant monitoring. AND ALL BECAUSE OF WHAT?!?!?! TO SATISFY THEIR BASELESS DOUBTS? For all you know they just want tick you off just to get to you because of their jealousy. Who in their right mind would oblige to that?

Well, that's pretty much what The Mayweathers and Golden Boy Promotions have done to Pacquiao. They started a rumor, rolled with, and without any form of logical and concrete evidence, they want an elaborate investigation on a person off it. Crazy ain't it? Crazier is the fact that some people actually fell for it. I don't know what you want to call it, but to me it sounds more like propaganda, misdirection, excuses and downright cheap. A fight is a fight, man. Boxing has it's set of rules that everybody follows. If one person feels the sport is not doing an adequate job to protect it's athletes, then why not question the process itself instead of pointing fingers at an innocent bystander? Singling out one person and accusing him of serious wrongdoing is no joke. Actually in some countries, it's a crime. But that's a different story for a different time.
Is it jealousy? Prejudice? A grudge? Shoot, some people might even go as far and claim racism. Not saying they are right, but I've heard it on less implicating situations.

One has to wonder how a great match-up has come down to this. What supposedly was the biggest money-making fight in the history of prize fighting is being cheapened by baseless accusations of steroids and media manipulation through press releases and misdirection.
Perhaps some parties are trying to sway the public, especially those who have not followed boxing closely in the past decade and make them serve the selfish purpose of a handful few. Like they said, ignorance is bliss, so if you wish not to face facts and truth, I strongly advice you to close this page and move on to the next because my aim is to lay down facts and separate it from all the nonsense you've been reading and hearing.


FACTS:
The Nevada State Athletic commission conducts scientific and state of the art drug testing before fights. Fighters that have been caught with some form of banned substance in their system include Fernando Vargas, Ricardo Mayorga, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and a long list of many others. Pacquiao has never failed a drug test, even back when blood was drawn from him prior to his first fight against Erik Morales in 2005. Pacquiao lost that fight by the way and said after the fight that the blood drawn from him caused him to feel weak. So you can say, Pacquiao speaks from experience as to why he refuses to give blood any time near fight night which Team Mayweather is subjecting him to do. As a compromise, Pacquiao is willing to submit to a blood test immediately after the fight. If there is banned substance to be detected in Pacquiao's blood 48 hours before the fight, then it is likely to remain there 48 seconds after fighting Mayweather. The key point here is "Pacquiao does not want to be tested before the fight because it weakens him".
And we are NOT talking about just a drop of blood here. Here's what

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Asafa Powell complained he was tested excessively during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, in which he won a gold medal as a member of his nation’s 4 x 100 meter relay team. “I got pretty upset two days ago because since I have been here, they have tested me four times,” Powell said during the 2008 Games. “They’ve taken so much blood from us we’re going to be very weak before the final.”
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Regardless if the Mayweathers really think Pacquiao is on some performance enhancing drug or not, it seems like they are trying to gain not only a physical edge on Pacquiao but a psychological edge as well. First of all, Pacquiao's power is his main advantage over Mayweather. The blood drawing will affect him more than it will Mayweather since Mayweather doesn't throw anywhere near as many punches as Pacquiao nor does he throw it as hard. He uses his feet and runs away from his opponent. By drawing Pacquiao's blood, he will compromise Pacquiao's power in the fight on top of the fact that he is being forced by the Mayweathers to bend backwards for no logical reason.
Can you imagine being a drug-free employee who has passed all your urine tests then all of a sudden your company suspects you for drug use and subjects you to a rigorous drug screening while nobody else around you has to undergo it? Some might be inclined to say that's discrimination. If this Olympic testing is something boxing really wants to do, then do it for all not just for one person and one fight.


WHY PACQUIAO?
Pacquiao has NEVER failed any form of drug test in his entire professional boxing career. Also, there are no indications in his body mass that suggests wrongdoing. Is it really because they think he is on steroids or because he is simply on top of the boxing world right now? A small man from a third-world country whom people said wasn't supposed to reach this far high ever in his career.
If you check Pacquiao's weight in the past 5 years, there has been no abnormal fluctuations to even begin speculating he is on steroids. He may have gone up in weight classes for weigh-ins but his normal weight and fight weights have remained consistent. I don't know about you but from what I know, steroids helps a person get more muscles, and muscles way heavier than fat, so why has Pacquiao not blown up in weight if he truly is on steroids or HGH like athletes in the past that have been found guilty of using them? Two words, Mark McGuire.


Here's Pacquiao's weights in the last 4 years:
Pacquiao vs. Morales 3: November, 2006 - Pacquiao's weight inside the ring was 144 lbs.
Pacquiao vs. Barrera 2: October 2007 He was 144 during fight night.
Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2: March 2008 - Pacquiao's weight during the fight was 145.
Pacquiao vs. Diaz: June 2008 - Pacquiao went up to lightweight for the first time and on fight night re-hydrated to 147.
Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya: December, 2008 - The limit for the fight was 147 and on fight night Pacquiao weighed 148 1/2.
Pacquaio vs. Hatton: May, 2009 - Pacquiao weighed 148.
Pacquiao vs. Cotto: November, 2009 - There were no in-ring weights given but my insiders told me Pacquiao weighed around 149.
That's a five pound increase in 4 years!!! Wow! Steroids huh?!?


All this steroids talk started when Floyd Mayweather Sr. mentioned something about it in an interview weeks after the fighter he was training, Ricky Hatton, was knocked out by Pacquiao in 2 rounds. Mayweather could not believe how someone who was just fighting at the 130 limit a year before can move up to 140 and knock out the lineal champ just like that. A fighter can drain weight by several means and ways but their actual weight is reflected during fight night. So what logical reason did Floyd Sr. really have to accuse Pacquiao of steroids? I'll tell you what- HIS IMAGINATION.


I actually feel bad for the casual fans who only go by what they hear and read. A lot of them have really been mislead by the play of words from the press release by Golden Boy Promotions and Team Mayweather. There really are people now thinking Pacquiao is on steroids despite not having any solid basis to do so. But I guess that's why most people who know anything about boxing and have followed it closely through the years have sided on sense and reason.


HBO's ringside judge Harold Lederman, a veteran figure in boxing and somebody who has seen pretty much all of Pacquiao's fights in Las Vegas said he did not see any indication in Pacquiao's body, stature and any reason whatsoever to believe Pacquiao is taking any illegal drug.


Your Thoughts?

 

not so familiar with jaguar as a floyd nut licker but i never respond to nallege, rooney and aaron's threads! (rauer is an ALT so I just ignore him)

there are floyd fans i respect still but these 3 *****s are on another level. they inhale floyd's fart for a living! it's their freakin oxygen!

 

Hey *******... Floyd showed in his last fight he will not fight at a pre-set limit. If he made weight vs. JMM, this would not even come up. History backs Pac's request, no matter how asinine. And Pac has NO HISTORY of cheating, just a history of kicking ass. Look at you....giving other ****, telling others they have no cred...you're a ****in idiot w/o an ounce of logic.

 

Show us the latest article about this and then we can talk. There are a lot of twists and turns here and I don't agree that the last turn is that Pac will only agree to a 30 day test without random blood test.

Btw, what roid do you think Pac is using and when did he start using it?

 

oh god! what contempt of court? only malicious rumor started by a convicted drug dealer and everyone jumped into this bandwagon

in the court of law, if you accuse someone of wrong doing, you have to provide your evidence, you have the burden of proof

you cannot condemn or send someone to jail because you have suspicions. in fact, manny can counter act because unlike the mayweathers, he actually has proof that he is clean whereas the mayweathers do not have proof that he is dirty! just suspicions!

 

He doesn't want to get caught, he is roiding it up.. end Thread.

 

The TS is doing a good job responding to people. Only one guy posted something, and it was a page quote from another guy's post, which Jaguar responded to. Why this fight can't be made over a pint of blood, and how close within the fight can blood be taken is beyond beffudling. I can't muster figuring this one out. Weeks on weeks, with many "It's dead" and then the next day "Fight's back on." I'm beginning to think the powers that be are using this ploy to try pulling more cash out of HBO because HBO knows they want to take it. Someone posted this theory, and I think it makes sense. The only thing, though, is both fighters are getting there character scrutinized and criticized beyond belief. PBF might do that for money, but why would Pac want to go with that just to milk even more cash? It's damaging to his character. But the theory holds well compared to a bunch of stubborn old assholes not being able to make this fight. Hey, I think I just figured it out. **** Arum, Schaefer, Pac, and Floyd until this fight is signed and fought. If that doesn't ever happen, then I hope they're happy with ruining the best superfight of the last 25 years.