I predicted that Brook would avoid Spence

I'm a fan of Spence, but he didn't earn a fight with Brook till AFTER he beat Algieri.

 

Most people didn't expect Brook would go anywhere near Spence. Brook probably figures if he is going to get his British glass jaw shattered it's better to get the bigger check against Little G.

 

Spence could have made Brook an offer if he really wanted the fight. He can still make him an offer after he fights Golovkin.

There's simply no reason to think Brook would want to avoid Spence.

 

How do we know he hasn't? Not everything is disclosed to the public. And isn't it the A-side that usually sends the contract to the B side? Brook fighting GGG is a 100% cash out. He's moving up 2 weight classes in a fight he cant win. It's the exact same thing Khan did against Canelo, except little g is dragging Brook up to the full 160. Brook has been fighting bums since Porter, and even cancelled the Chaves fight, that's enough to logically think that Brook wants nothing to do with fights like Spence unless he's getting a career payday. If a certain amount of money is offered, anyone will fight at the end of the day.

 

Spence has been fighting "bums" too and Hearn said he turned down an offer to fight Brook. That's enough to logically think Spence wants nothing to do with a fighter like Brook.

Brook has been fighting "bums" to fulfill his mandatory obligations and because guys like Spence, Khan and Vargas turn him down or price themselves out.

 

Spence denied those allegations though. If this was little g, you'd be crying "show da contract doe :|".

Why would Spence be climbing the IBF ladder if he didnt want to fight Brook . Jesus christ some people are just dense.

Funny how Brook was so keen on fighting his mandatory, but now that Spence is on the way to becoming his mando, suddenly he's going up 2 weight classes for a huge cash out . Doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together. Once he takes his loss against Errol, he'll never have the opportunity to make the kind of $$ he's going to against little g.

 

Of course Brook is gonna take the big money fight. What do you expect him to take a small payday just so he can wait for Spence and get another small payday against him?

Spence is irrelevant to Brook right now. If/when he becomes mandatory or makes an offer then he will become relevant. Brook will still be welterweight champ after the Golovkin fight so how is he avoiding anyone?

 

So many errors in this post its unreal. How does Brook fighting GGG now = that he isn't keen on fighting his mandatory. You are acting like then IBF have called Brook to defend is title right now. They haven't and won't do till next year.

Oh and for the record, Spence isn't even the mandatory challenger yet.

Your point about how do we know that Spence team never made an offer is so pathetic. Dude if they made an offer and kell turned it down do you honestly believe that Spence would not let the world know that kell ducked him.

The facts are clear as day. No offer was made as Spence team are perfectly happy to wait till next year. Would Spence fight now, if course he would but that's not the argument. His team are in no rush. Eddie Hearn said weeks ago, "we are here, make us an offer if you want the fight now"

No offer was made. Spence team would have had to make a damn good offer as you cannot expect kell to give up a 75/25 Split which he will get next year. No Sane fighter would do that.

Accept it and move on.

 

What people are saying that it's a plausible theory that Brook is only cashing out due to Spence becoming his mandatory. If Spence wasn't climbing the IBF ladder, and it was Vargas, Sammy Vasquez, Guerrero, etc I don't see Brook moving up 2 weight classes to take this cash out.

By the time Brook faces Spence(if he ever does), he won't have as much to lose. He'll have a paycheck that will set him up for the rest of his life against GGG. Brook's team already have the excuses laid out, how he's "too big for WW", so when he moves back down they can easily say that the cut from 160 to 147 was too much, and that they'll be fighting at 154. Don't be surprised if Brook vacates and moves up to 154 after losing to GGG.

 

There's a weird thing going on with the english fighters.

It's better to be savagely knocked out by a bigger man than it is to lose a hard fought battle to someone in your own weight class. You get "street cred" and can keep your titles and contender status.

He has lucrative options after being decapitated by GGG.....he has nothing after losing a UD/MD/SD to Spence (his mando).

Likewise, Khan still has his #1 contender status against Garcia, and Brook v. Khan is still (somewhat) a money fight after they are both destroyed by bigger men.

 

The IBF clearly does not want the Brook/Spence fight right now for some certain reason. Spence claims that the IBF ordered him to fight the other EE chicken ponaduckling, and then a mando fight against Brook. How does that equate to Spence wanting to wait? Spence is doing everythign in his power to get a fight against Vasquez, Porter, Thurman, Brook, etc, no one wants to fight this kid. At the end of the day, I like a lot of people see this as a cash out move before facing a real threat like Spence. If Sammy Vasquez, Lamont Peterson, Guerrero etc were lined up to fight him, would he be fighting GGG next? Hmm, I'm doubting that.

 

My god!! The IBF have their rules. You honestly believe are making some special rules for kell. Jesus Christ!

The IBF are doing what they always do for every fighter. They all have to fight in a final eliminator.

Also kell fought his mandatory earlier in the year so that means the IBF give him a year breathing space before they call the next one. Again they do this for every IBF champion and not just kell Brook.

If Peterson, guerreo etc were all lined up then of course kell would still fight GGG.

This idea that kell is fighting GGG to avoid Spence in a fight that is not happening till next year is laughable.

I can't believe you actually believe that.

And like I said before, Errol Spence team could have avoided the final eliminator and made kell a huge offer to fight this year.

They didn't.. why can you not accept this?

 

I never said they were making special rules for Brook atsch. I'm saying that they don't want this fight, what eliminator did Bizier, Gavin, Dan win to get a fight against Brook? You act like all of these mandos were fighting worthy eliminators, or better opponents than Spence atsch for the love of god do you have no common sense. Also it's 9 months not a year. So brook would have been forced to fight Spence by December since his last fight was in march.

What are you basing this off . Common sense tells us that Brook would cash in against all of those guys before fighting GGG. The GGG fight would always be there for him if he keeps his 0, because that's the only way to even promote this fight.

 

Biezer and Dan got the fights as when the people above them turn down the mandatory final eliminator. The IBF just move down the rankings and see who does want the fight. Fighters turn it down because they do not want to fight on the 75/25 splits

That is how you get situations like biezer being number 1 contender. Go and look at IBF rankings now and see what would happen if Spence went down another route. See what names you find in the top 10

Okay, kell would have turned down what at least £2m to fight GGG now if Peterson was lined up as a mandatory instead of Spence in a fight that wouldn't happen till next year. Don't be silly!

The offer was made to kell out of the blue he accepted. Has nothing to do with avoiding Errol Spence.

Still waiting for your explanation on why team Spence never made an offer by the way.

Saying they did but we just don't know about it isn't cutting it.

 

Brook has been wanting a big money fight forever that's why he has been calling out Khan since the dawn of time and was calling out Pacquiao years ago. It is extremely unlikely to have anything to do with Spence. There is no reason for Brook to be worried about Spence, he has beaten nobody and is completely unproven.

As I said before there is nothing to suggest Brook is at all worried about Spence, it's just something completely made up by sone Spence fan boys with no real basis.

If Brook moves to 154, again it is extremely unlikely to have anything to do with Spence. It has been talked about since way before Spence was on the scene because Kell was always clearly very big for a welterweight.

No disrespect to Spence, he's a great prospect but the notion that Kell is at all afraid of him is just made up. Look at Kell, look in his eyes, look at his demeanour. He us genuinely extremely confident to the point of arrogance. I doubt he would avoid anyone at 147.