I promise you its not a weak HWT era

I myself think it´s a rather weak era but not as bad as it´s made out to be.

 

The heavyweight division is as weak as the american economy, and in both cases, there is no promise in sight.

 

Too many alphabets killing the sport. Just one champ in each class will condense the major fights so the best fighters are compelled to fight each other and the public will know who the champ is. This raise the quality from fight to fight and the publics awareness and will help remove the notion that the HW division is only full of crap.

Having said there is no doubt US is desperate for a real HW, when that happens it should help the sport generally.

Trouble is does anyone expect the alphabets to sort their **** out? Of course not they would rather run the sport into the ground.

 

Some of you have exposed yourselves as just having watched Boxing for a short time by your comments in this thread.

Here is an article from the March 10th 1980 edition of Sports Illustrated. Does it sound familiar?

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says. "By round eight, if someone didn't know it was for the championship of the world, if he'd just tuned in, he'd have thought it was a comedy.

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If the economy gets bad enough maybe we'll get some poor hungry kids who turn to boxing to make their way. Poverty breeds the best fighters.

 

pffft.

 

Vitali and Wlad are fighting in a weak era of HW boxing. Both guys are being compared to all time greats, yet neither ever beat one, or at least looked dominating almost every time out. Vitali lost to Lewis, and Wlad didn't rematch two of the men who beat him, and rematched the third after he was out of shape needing money after an eye operation.

65,000 Germans saw Wlad fight, yet Ali averaged huge numbers like that his whole career. The American media isn't responsible for Wlad being perceived boring. Vitali came here and did his best in a losing effort to Lennox. Vitali won our respect back after quitting against Byrd. Wlad has never won his respect back. An olympic HW champion has to rematch men who beat him in immediate rematches. In our country, HW boxing is in a lull, and there just aren't that many trying boxing out. The HW division isn't being dominated by Eastern Europeans. If that is the case, then the HW division has been dominated by Americans for over 100 years.

Wlad has 2 ko losses to Americans, and a ko loss to a South African. Vitali waited Rahamn out, lost to Lennox, and beat a fat Sam Peter. Americans give respect to champions who are in tough fights or when they show superior aspects of their style in beating their opponent. Wlad just jabs hiw way to a win. Fine, but Americans are used to seeing dominant champs, and the Klit brothers aren't dominating anyone who is capable of fighting back.

 

There is some truth to that. The more hungry you are, the harder you fight. I think it might breed tougher fighters, not sure about overall better though.

 

Compared to other weight classes, the HWT division is always weak- everyone bitches about it unless you've got an Ali or Tyson that attracts mainstream interest, at which point the division gets overrated and people get geeked to see the fights and what happens with that individual. They then lose, and it legitimizes the division because X fighter wouldn't lose unless the other guy was really great. Well, then that guy loses, and the cycle continues until that generation retires. People then remember it as "great". The worst thing that can happen is if someone goes the way of Tunney, Lewis, or Marciano and leaves while they're on top. Then everyone perceives it as weak until the next group comes up because nobody got to dethrone the champ.

Part of this phenomenon is because as time goes on, people will naturally forget the bad fights that the media superstars were in. If they're interested in the fighter, they're more likely get a pass at the time. If they're more genuinely excited for a fight before it happens, they're also more likely to romanticize what happens at the time, even if the fight itself sucks balls.

 

Get into the ring with them and find out. Why only pick those 3 as well? How about Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, your posterboy David Haye, Povetkin, Eddie Chambers, Domitrenko, Arreola, Boytzov, ect... The division is very deep.

You people carry around a deluded sense of reality when it comes to the world's top fighters. Just because Wladimir Klitschko is so dominant right now, it sure as hell doesn't mean that the rest of the entire world sucks. It means that he is that great. You sit around talking about David Haye being so good... yet I would bet my house that Povetkin would beat the breaks off of him.

 

I don't think anyone talks about David Haye being so good. The David Haye phenomena is about everyone else being so bad. Even Haye admits this. He says that today's heavyweights are fat and lazy and etc.
If the heavyweights were good I don't think anyone would be exciting about a somewhat chinny cruiser weight moving up for the challenge.

Also, it's not the top where the problem is. Klitsckos ARE really good fighters. But everyone at the second tier is hopelessly bad. Many of them are SHOT, second tier guys from the 90's!

 

Stop trying to sound convincing lol. You wouldn't bet the house on Povetkin to beat Haye lol...stop lying:rofl Wlad is a nice guy, but a very unpopular champion.

 

To address the original post, I will cut a long story short.

The OP has a point that has tremendous value, as boxing history plainly shows that current champs are unfairly compared to past heroes.

However, the sport has genuine problems right now.

We have a combination of factors to consider - this is not a black and white case.

 

Yes, I would.