I re-scored Clottey-Margarito after watching it.

I had it a draw but I saw no way of Margo winning that fight. It was obvious Arum wanted him to win so badly.

They even had Margo wrap his hand up like it was hurt even thought you heard nothing about his injury after the fight.

 

You are a crack head, but I said Clottey kicked his ass all over the ring that fight and margarito only landed a few body shots and he punched gloves all night. Clottey made his face distorted and swollen after that fight. Look at Margaritos right side of his face. He looks like the elephant man. Meanwhile Clottey complained about his finger after 12 rounds and his face still the same.

 

:nod

 

I did'nt have to watch it twice, I always said Clottey won that fight.

 

I need to re-watch the fight. I had Margo wining by 1 or 2 rounds.

 

I always thought Clottey won the fight. At the very LEAST it should have been scored a draw so that Clottey didnt have to accrue a crap L on his record.

 

I scored it for Margarito 8 rounds to 4, 7 to 5 at worst. Clottey didn't do much after the 1st 4 rounds. Only 1 or 2 rounds were debatable afterwards.

 

I really don't see how you could give Round 6 to Clottey. He did nothing in the last 2 minutes and even though almost all of Margarito's punches weren't clean connects, they were effective in breaking Clottey down. Clottey took a break the last 2 minutes of that round, he didn't even try to steal it like he did with other rounds. Could you explain why you gave this to Clottey?

Round 8 was closer than 6 and I could see someone judging this as an even round, but again I can't see why you would give Clottey this round. He wasn't throwing a lot and was missing most of what he threw. Margarito missed a lot like always, but he landed body shots consistently and Clottey didn't do enough to be effective or be awarded the round.

Clottey was tired and his hand hurt after the 4th, so he switched his gameplan to steal rounds. As shitty as Margarito looked, I think his punches were more effective because they contributed to Clottey slowing down more and they didn't give him much time to breathe. Clottey needed to do more to win the rounds, not just put his guard up for 90% of the time and fire quick combinations once in a while.

Everything else I agree with, especially the part about Williams. The fact that Williams had such a low connect % against Margarito and had trouble with him really drops him down a level or two. Margarito should be a Telefutura headliner and not on HBO. I'm surprised everyone picked him over Judah.

It's interesting how you scored it for Clottey after rewatching it, but originally had Margarito winning and IntentionalButt had Clottey winning wide before rewatching it and scoring it a draw. I don't remember how much I had Margarito winning by the first time I saw it, but after rewatching I had it 115-114. I have to say though, the rounds Clottey won are all rounds that are impossible to argue against. 1-4 and 10.

 

That's the very common sheep opinion spoon-fed from the Showtime announcers. You must have not seen the couple of threads on this the last couple of weeks, or taken up the "go watch it again" challenge. It's okay, it's not just you...many people, with perfectly good heads on their shoulders - were duped into blindly going with the prepackaged view of the fight. 8-4 AM? Clottey didn't win a single round after the fourth?

 

Don't give me that bull****. I know what I saw with my own two eyes. And that is Clottey coming out strong early, then fading late like he always does and fighting in spurts. It takes more than a handful of flashy slaps to win a round in my book.

No, I didn't because I've had the entire card on DVD since it aired and watched it numerous times already. So I didn't feel the need to tune into the replay this week and participate in the "let's rewatch old fights with clear cut winners and create controversy where it isn't needed" challenge.

Like I said, after the 4th round, only 1 or 2 rounds were even debatable. If you wanna give Clottey the benefit of the doubt in those rounds, fine. But don't pretend like he won any of those clear cut. And if anyone is being duped here, it's those who believe Clottey's supposed "hand injuries." The man clearly is a front runner and proves it out time and time again when faced with aggressive fighters.

 

Margo won by atleast 2 rounds, i dont give close rounds to runners and quiters. Margo wanted it more, Clottey was ready to quit like a lil ***** when the going got tough

 

Not really.

He was already regarded as one of the greatest warriors in the sport, before fighting Clottey.

Hard for his "warrior mystique" to go up, after the first Castillo fight it was already at it's peak.

Sometimes when a person passes away, people tend to inflate how great they really were at something, in Chico's case it could never happen. He was a legendary warrior before passing away, and nobody could ever exagerrate what a warrior he was, because he's one of the biggest I've seen in my lifetime.

Sorry to go off-topic, just miss Chico I guess.

 

This suggests the Americas' WW scene is worse than I had previously believed.