I re-watched Pac/JMM 2, and scored it a draw

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  1. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Wow and people wonder why Pacquiao takes so much flack. I tell ya, as great as he is for the sport, I wouldn't mind seeing him retire if it meant his fans go with him.

    I re-watched the first fight, and score it 113-111 for Marquez. I had two rounds that could have been even, but leaned towards Marquez. The 113-113 draw card was understandable.

    As much heat as Joe Cortez has taken as of late, he made the right decision of letting Marquez get up and continue after the 3rd KD. Many or most referees would have stopped it right then.
     
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  2. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think JMM has adjusted to 135 so at that weight, it would still be a very close fight but 140 would be a different story... a brutal KO win by Pac where he would not get any credit as JMM would suddenly turn into a shot fighter.:huh
     
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  3. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously you do, if you're going to take the time to reply. And I'm sure someone with that avatar has no biases.

    So **** off.
     
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  4. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup, but he's a good clown!:good Certainly, that's a KD that the ref did not call!:-(
     
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  5. harrison

    harrison feu-nrmf md 2005 Full Member

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    ;):yep:good
     
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  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    JMM beat Pac, never lost to him, not even once!
     
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  7. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    Maybe you should check boxrec Farmy, cause you're wrong and that's a fact. :good
     
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  8. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually JMM has 0 loss....NOT ONCE!!!!! NOT EVER!!!!! NOOOOO!!!!:|
     
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  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly......from my perspective, the only way to make this fight close from a round by round perspective, is to weigh the connects from each fighter equally......meaning if it connects, it counts the same regardless of how clean or hard it connects......

    ......You can see from those first round gifs that alot of those Pac connects has JMM in tune with what Pac is doing and riding with the shot, thus minimizing its impact.

    From my view there was a clear discrepancy in JMM's favor in the overall quality of the connects.....and its the reason why 2 out of 3 posters in this forum and the same ratio of boxing journalist scored the fight for JMM.
     
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  10. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At 135 or 140?
     
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  11. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    If JMM doesn't get kd'd, he can win this fight by UD.
     
    imp4pdabest, Dec 18, 2008
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  12. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If tyson's opponent did not get ko or tko, they can win the fight against him.
    If oscar did not get tired against felix he could have one
    If MJ did not make any of his shot against the jazz, they jazz could have one.


    So manny "if", things does not work that way.
     
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  13. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Next.....it's on to Hatton May 2, 2009.

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