I re-watched & scored the JMM-Pac fight....

Good card, Bill.

I just re-scored it myself and had 7-3 Marquez, 2 rounds even.

 

Watched a few times and had scores ranging from 9-3, 8-4 and 7-5 all in JMM's favor. Closet i can get it is 7-5 JMM.

 

I had it 116-113

I scored round 7 or 8 a 10-10 if I recall correctly.

JMM could have stolen a few rounds but faded at the end.

It was a close fight, JMM has Pac's number and a bad style for him to deal with, but in the end I scored it for Pac's aggressiveness.

 

Marquez dominated. His rounds were clearer, and Pac had very few clear rounds. Didn't you and Addie have it a draw at first? The more you watch it the clearer it becomes that Marquez won this fight more clearly than the 1st two fights (I actually had him losing the 1st fight by 1 point). It's incredibly tough to score, as a fight, though. You have a good round. Almost half of the fight might be swing rounds, and you basically have to give Pac all for him to win by 2 points or nearly all to get the draw. It's painfully difficult to score this fight for Pac. You just have to have an agenda, or just like reward fighters for moving forward as opposed to moving backwards.

Round 4, 10 and 12 are all close. I actually had the 11th for Pac and the 12th even, but then again, after watching the 11th for the 3rd time it became more apparent that Pac has fewer clear cut rounds than I actually thought. Dreadful how Lederman and 1 judge had it 116-112.

 

i'm curious to know, are the majority of people claiming pac won, watched the HBO telecast? cos I think people were totally influenced by the HBO team, and the ****ing compubox numbers every second. People aren't watching the action, they are looking at the numbers ticking over.

Cos I watched the primetime telecast. We dont get compubox numbers clouding our judgement. And it was clear to me, that Marquez swept this fight quite easily and comfortably. Wasn't a single doubt in my mind. I watched the action and called it as I saw it. And I had a card close to you guys. 2 or 3 rounds to pac MAX!!

 

It's amazing how easily people are absorbed into the HBO commentating bias. Kellerman seemed to be the only one that would give JMM any credit.

HBO commentating went like this...

**Pac throws an ineffective 1-2 that is either slipped or does no damage** You then hear "Good left hand upstairs by Pacquiao!"

**Pac tries another flurry, eats a counter uppercut and overhand right** Silence.........

I can't count how many times the commentators wet their pants when Pac threw ineffective flurries, and either blathered on about nothing or remained silent when JMM countered Pac beautifully and outsmarted him.

The point is...WATCH THE FIGHT WITH NO VOLUME, or in a different language. Steer clear of the painfully obvious bias in HBO.

 

I'll stick to my 116-112 card though having seen it again I can see why some people have it 117-111

 

I've come up with 9-2-1, 9-3, and 8-4 all for Marquez. Could see 7-5 Marquez as well.

 

PAC tried to steal a few rounds late with a couple of flurries. Landing 2 clean shots at the end of the round where you have had several clean shots landed on you, DOES NOT win you the round. That's some DLH last 20 seconds flurry to steal the round **** that he was doing and most smart observers weren't buying it. A lot of the "close" rounds were deemed so because Pac tended to come back at the very end and land a couple of shots. I had JMM by at least 2 rounds, but I will re-score it after they replay it this Saturday.

 

I watched it again. Marquez shots to pac jus looks cleaner and stronger because of his hair bouncing and all the awkward angles he is in when he gets it. Other than that, you can count with your hands how many times marquez connected. Pac missed a lot but he also connected a lot. He clearly won by points. Mexican fans were jus upset simply because they're mexican.

 

I watched the fight twice 8-4 JMM the fist time and 7-5 JMM the second. No ****ing way did Pac win that fight.

 

I'm British. I wanted Manny to win. Preferably by 1st round KO.

 

Watched three times. Easy, clear victory. 117-111 or 116-112 if your kind to PAC. JMM has Pac's number. Fourth fight should be easier. JMM is now stronger than Manny. Game over.

 

Why not make it 12-0? some cards seem truly crazy