I read that leading up to the Tyson fight, Holyfield benched 365 lbs for 10 reps

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    According to a 1 rep max calculator, that would give him an estimated 500 pound max bench. Although, that's not beyond belief for a nearly 220 pound HW on roids and with top tier strength trainers.
     
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  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's more than freaking Arnold could bench, lol.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Holyfield was shoving Tyson around with ease during their fight. And yeah, I think he would have been benching more than a prime Arnold.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I've heard this claim before; I think one of Holy's trainers made it, although I'd appreciate it if someone could post the source.

    Not quite sure what to make of it. The guy was push pressing at most only about 250 lbs in the early 1990s, although that's presumably off season and under weird conditions. This is a whole other level.

    (I think I remember the same source commenting that Holyfield was very unusual for his level of strength endurance when it gave the 365x10 anecdote. I wonder, based on that context, whether Holyfield was simply unusually good at repping heavy weights, and that this performance doesn't necessarily translate to a 500 pound 1 RM.

    (Does anyone have a source for the 500 pound Arnold max? It seems just a little low, comparatively speaking, or the Holyfield figure may be off.)
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think I can clear this up; but the actual statistic is even more impressive in its way. He was able to have 365 children in just ten orgasms.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I wish I could find the article. But, Holyfield was a chiseled 218 pounds and had some of the top strength trainers around. I benched 370 pounds today and have done north of 400 and I'm about 190 something and train myself. If I had the trainers and PEDS and specialized diet that Holyfield had access to, I might be able to get 365x10 or 500x1.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Now that is freaking IMPRESSIVE!
     
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  8. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can picture Holyfields spotter telling him while benching "I can feel your anger (roid rage?). It makes you stronger, gives you focus" in a Darth Sidious-esque voice.
     
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Check that rep calculator again.
    I understand that folks can normally do 80% of their 1 rep max for 8 reps.
    75% for 10 reps.
    If that is accurate, would that not leave him in the 485-490 range for a 1 rep max?
    Still huge. And I agree with PEDs & all that effective training, not at all implausible.
     
  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I recall over 500 for Arnold, but not that much, I think it was 520.
    If so, we have to consider both that it may be with stricter form than some, + he did not work for maximum strength, but hypertrophy & muscle. Arnold with his much shorter limbs could BP I think it was 40-50 lbs. more, & like Ferrigno competed in a strongman competition.
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You may well.
    The amount you can BP is very large, especially for under 200!
    Is this without any devices, like bench shirts?
    And have you used PEDs to build up strength previously? Even off them folks retain some benefits, such as multiple nucleii recruited for muscle cells.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    That had everything to do with how Tyson stood and little to do with Holyfields strength.
     
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  13. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right. But going into the fight--or Czyz and writers and so forth---they all thought Tyson had a big edge in strength. A big edge. I thought they were 100% wrong and really never thought too much of the so called strength of Tyson. But then again, they pretty much underestimated everything about Evander and overestimated Tyson.
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    I believe @cross_trainer is the guy to ask but from memory in the “best I faced” Mike topped out many fighters lists as the strongest.
     
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  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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