I reckon Inoue has entered SRR pound for pound territory

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  1. FastSmith7

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    Inoue is brilliant but he only has one win against a top opponent in their prime, and he only got it this week.
     
  2. Guerra

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    In the lower weights he did though. Maybe not as much as Inoue but it didnt carry over into welter.
     
  3. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kind of unfair given how Robinson had about 120 fights at the same age as Inoue is now. And he still had like 80+ KO's at the time. It's harder to KO your every opponent when you are fighting every month. Robinson literally even had matches scheduled like 1-2 weeks apart at a pretty frequent basis. His draw to the insignificant Henry Brimm happened because he literally had a fight only 5 days prior.

    And none of them are anywhere near as great as Robinson's best oponnents. Gavilan and LaMotta alone are better than Inoue's resume. If you consider old Donaire to be Inoue's best win instead of Fulton, then I don't see how you can even put that win above old Armstrong. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of Robinson's resume.

    Again, such rapid activity means you won't always be in absolute peak fighting condition. And Robinson got off the floor to win most fights he got dropped in, the closest thing he got that even remotely resembles a stoppage loss was a corner stoppage against Maxim due to a heat stroke.

    I love Inoue, I consider him the most accomplished Pound for Pound fighter today, and there is a chance he might still claim that spot even after Spence-Crawford, but come on. There is a huge difference between being compared to Usyk, Spence, Crawford, Canelo etc and being compared to an almost unparalleled fistic connoisseur like Robinson.
     
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  4. Bokaj

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    At the age of 30 SRR had faced Lamotta five times, I believe, Gavilan twice, Zivic twice as well as Armstrong and Angott and a whole lot of contenders. Look at the NBA ww rankings of the 40's and it reads pretty much like Robinson's resume. He cleaned house.

    Would Inoue's KO record look the same if he had 10+ fights year, almost half of them against world class fighters? And when does KO ratio trump number of wins? A KO is great, but a W is what it's about. And Robinson had a loooooot more of those.

    The contenders back then also faced other contenders. That left their records less pristine than today's fighters that for a good part of their career before they face a ranked fighter.

    Keeping the 0 has a totally other priority in today's boxing, while it was much more like UFC in the 40's, but with a much more hectic schedule.

    Crawford has beat all of 1 ranked fighter since he won his belt at WW. It's another scene today.
     
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  5. PIPO23

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    Put Pac against Fulton or Buttler see what happens.Let’s talk equivalents.

    Marquez = Donaire.
    Morales= Buttler.
    Barrera=moloney.
    Margarito= Mcdonalds.
    Mayweather=Fulton.

    I know instantly he is fed guys 38 percents KO percentage like Fulton who cant crack an egg shells. Sure he has ATG attributes but not sure he has faced any atg counter parts.Inoue is a talent no doubt beating med opps.
     
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  6. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    At the same time, today's fighters are better athlethes with better preparation.
    And you can only beat what's in front of you.

    Prime Pac lost to Morales, almost lost to Marquez. He never carried his punch to the higher weights the way he did to the lower ones (i know, Hatton disagrees)

    Can anyone name a better puncher these last 30 years than Inoue ?
    Jackson and Hamed come to mind, and neither had Inoue's precision.
     
  7. PIPO23

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    Its because Pac is not fighting Buttler or Fulton of the worlds.He is facing world elite legends at a higher weight at featherweights and beyond.

    You do realize Donare nearly loss to Vicchinyan in their rematch and he got flatline by No mas Walters.He got toyed by Frampton and Magdeleno.
    We gonna compare Donaire to Marquez or Morales.

    Look at it this way Naz Hamed would spark the Fulton or Buttlers of the world.But when he ran into an atg Mexican warrior Barrera look what happens.It’s all smokes and mirriors.
     
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  8. J_metal

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    Correction ur not with stupid U R the 1 that's Stupid :susurro:
     
  9. J_metal

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    Time to log off.
     
  10. J_metal

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    Med level is an overstatement, one punch from pacman will send him flying.
     
  11. Bokaj

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    Today's fighters are better prepared because they fight much less frequently, yes that's pretty much a given. Better athletes... Would they cope with that kind of schedule? Take their first loss and then avenge it a few weeks later? We'll never know.

    You can only beat what's in front of you, but if it's more quality opponents it will become more impressive.

    Are we on Pac now? Yes, he lost to Morales and drew with Marquez and had another very close fight with him, but are you telling me that Inoue has faced anyone of that quality?

    It's not Inoue's fault that those kind of fighters aren't around right now at those weights, if they were we know he'd want to face them, but sadly he might end his career with the question of how he would do against that calibre of fighter still being unanswered. He might really have to challenge himself and face Loma, Davies or Shakur at much higher weights, but those are big asks.
     
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  13. PIPO23

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    Exactly someone here calims Inoue atg claims will be via unified and undisputed king @ 122 and 126 fighting nobodies.Looks good until you break it down into pieces into a rubbish bins.
     
  14. PIPO23

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    Pac was already fighting atgs at 24.Your nonoya best opp is Nonaire at 30+z
     
  15. ConfusedGuy

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    Fanboys **** me off. To put Inoue in the same sentence as SRR shows that either a. You're on the spectrum or b. You dream of sucking him off