I see a 75-76 ron lyle giving joe louis a dangerous fight

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I see louis eventually stopping lyle but i think that he should get up at least twice from the canvas to win this. Lyle was aggressive, 20 pounds heavier, stronger,
    ,tough and could hit like a son of....(ask to foreman).louis was special and finally i think that he ends it but would not be any walk in the park.
    How do you see it?
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 Officer Full Member

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    Lyle would be a tough fight for any HW champion...but like you said Louis knocks him out every time
     
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  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Louis was lucky for getting dropped by hotdog munching part-time street brawlers. Otherwise he had another avenging job, and his H2H reputation would be more realistic.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    He may be as tough an adversary as say Buddy Baer was in their first meeting. Depending on the circumstances, he may drop Louis. But Louis would put on a parade of counter punching and Lyle would be counted out.
     
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  5. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see a 75-76 Joe Louis giving a late 30's-early 40's Lyle a total beat down.
     
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  6. Pat M

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    IMO Lyle would be Louis' toughest competition and it wouldn't be close. Prior to 1962 there were only a few champs who would be competitive with Lyle. Lyle's combination of size, strength, and skill would be too much for most of the heavyweight boxers who came before him.
     
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  7. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The true prime Lyle, kinda like James Scott, was never seen due to prison time, surgeries, and time off.

    If Quarry could beat Lyle, then Louis brings a lot more to the table.
     
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  8. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Jerry quarry fought a green lyle. But ok according your logic... If galento and buddy baer could hurt louis badly then lyle could do the same and even improve it because he was better
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    He did lose to Quarry who was the same size as many old time heavies. I think guys like Sharkey, Schmeling, Max Baer or Gene Tunney would have a reasonable chance to beat Lyle. It wouldn't be far fetched to believe.
     
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  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We're talking Ron Lyle here folks....Joe Louis everytime!!!
     
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  11. Fergy

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    Yep ,old Joe may go down against Lyle but Ron end s up a beaten mess before the tenth.
     
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  12. SuzieQ49

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    Disagree on Lyle being “green”. He got a late start, but he aS already 32 years old and 19 fights deep when he figure quarry.

    The previous fight, he knocked out number 8 rated in the world Larry Middleton.

    Directly after the quarry loss, Lyle defeated Garcia (beat Norton ) , stalling (beat shavers) and Peralta.

    He was very close to his prime in 73
     
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  13. janitor

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    Who ever you managed, you would turn pale at the idea of matching them with Lyle!
     
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  14. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle was some green against Quarry. I would have like to have seen a truly prime Lyle. It always seemed he was playing catchup in his career.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    What about peak vs peak? Louis in your scenario might be just a touch past it and Lyle a smidgeon green.
     
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