I still can't get over the Loma Haney robbery and I never will

No? I mean, it's not difficult, but that's OK

 

How many posters on here would you say are both fans of Floyd and Loma haters?

 

17-3... I've never seen so much fuss over a 17-3 fighter...

 

Enough to notice the difference between a pattern and a "lazy generalization."

And if you think I'm a Floyd hater, think again. I consider Mayweather a brilliant fighter and an absolute all-time great (I believe he would have beaten just about any version of Pac).

 

As if on cue.....

 

I don't keep tabs on the #'s. Just seeing the same names touting Floyd and hating those mentioned. If you don't notice, that's probably not a bad thing.

 

I never called you a Floyd hater lol why would I have thought that?

Or are you saying there's also a pattern between Loma fans and Floyd haters?

 

Yeah that's one, fair enough.

 

It isn't so much sympathy as it is human beings innate thirst for a compelling story. The naturally bigger, younger man beating the undersized, aging prodigy isn't a compelling narrative, but the reverse of that certainly is.

It was a closely contested fight and judges can't always be relied upon to do a competent job of scoring. This isn't by any means indicative of Haney thinking he lost the fight, if that is what you are driving at?

It's impossible to quantify the number of impartial viewers. Just because one claims to be impartial doesn't make it so. That being said, Loma had a compelling case for having won more rounds than Haney. People scoring the fight in the Ukrainian's favour is not a controversy.

It certainly can, I just don't think this fight had one.

Here's some scorecards and thoughts from various boxing insiders...

“I felt Loma won a close decision, 115-113. This fight screams for a rematch. I did not agree with Shakur Stevenson’s take that this was a ‘robbery’” - Ron Borges

“It was considered a close contest, but I believe we had the right verdict at the end of the fight. I believe when you challenge for a world title you have to rip the championship away from the champion.” - Duke McKenzie

“I thought Loma won, but it was not a robbery. The fight was competitive and could have gone either way.” - Bobby Benton

"It was a very close fight. I believe about 6-6 in rounds seems right. No matter how you saw it, this was no robbery. The perception of some is that Loma clearly deserved the decision. That’s because he won some rounds more clearly and decisively than Haney won his rounds. But remember, you score each round as an individual fight.” - Steve Farhood

“I think people turned against Haney after he pushed Lomachenko at the weigh-in. It’s easy to get caught up in the hype. There were a lot of very close rounds in the fight, and I scored it 115–113 for Haney, but a round or two the other way makes it a draw or a win for Loma. Was it a robbery? In my opinion, no.” - Wayne McCullough

Various people have submitted their scorecards on the website Eye on the Ring. Many have scored it for Lomachenko, this is true, but a large percentage of people also thought it was either a draw or a narrow victory for Haney. This speaks to how debatable the fight was in reality.

https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/devin-haney-vs-vasyl-lomachenko

Just to be clear, I am not trying to discredit people who believe Lomachenko did enough to win this fight. That's totally valid. I only take umbrage with those who claim this is some kind of unprecedented robbery of epic proportions. This, for me, is quite ridiculous.

 

I think there is some hostility between the fan bases, yes.

Team "Eastern Europe" is not always faborably disposed to American fighters.

That boxing is a tribal sport should come as no surprise to anyone.

 

Yes, probably that's it. And you are probably the most unbiased man in the forum

 

You and anyone who watched that fight and knows a bare minimum about boxing. There was no robbery in there.

 

At least they both were given chances at a rematch, Lomachenko just got screwed.

 

Yes I am My philosophy is may the best man on the night get the win he deserves, Sure I have guys I admire & love to see my friends win too but only if they win LEGITIMATELY!! not get Vegas type robbery decision wins
like certain ones do regardless who really won the fight.

They eventually got rematches & both got screwed AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! BLATANTLY Canelo NEVER LEGITIMATELY beat GGG & Floyd never legitimately beat Pac man. Plus he was literally terrified he might have to face Antonio Margarito so terrified he literally **** himself lol

You said it yourself Ive no need to YOU obviously dont ,as they say, YDKSAB do you