i think a 41yr old mccall could beat a 45yr old foreman

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not even 100% sold on the idea of a peak McCall beating a 90's Foreman, let alone the McCall that should be banned from fighting today.

    Foreman in his comeback had a well polished defense, good jab, powerful right, solid chin and improved stamina due to having a more controlled pace. Of course, I don't think that Foreman is knocking out McCall, but a 90's Foreman did not always have to KO an opponent to win a match. Hell, he was nearly 50 years of age, when he was robbed of a decision against a prime Shannon Briggs. McCall was edged by a 35 year old Tucker who by that point, was moving slower than old people ****. I think Foreman's jab, defense, ability to work the body, and punching power would keep oliver off him for most of the evening enroute to a 10 or 12 round decision.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eh, I've heard that the Tucker decision against McCall was a poor one.
     
  3. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :huh Because he beat Wallace McDaniel and Kenny Craven?
     
  4. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me too, but I've never seen it.
     
  5. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Yes. I went to watch one of his last 3 fights in person, when he faced James Smith a 2nd time. He was 49 then, and probably capable of taking a 41 year old McCall.

    None of this has anything to do with the fact that he was 42 when he fought Ray Mercer.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Seems almost impossible to find. :bart
     
  7. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By looking at the Holyfield fight I can see George had good stamina at this age even if he didn't look as fit as he was, if anyone was going to test McCall's chin it would be Foreman.
    So Foreman wins and maybe a late KO no one can stand in front of big George and McCall might do this late in the fight if no KO a Foreman decision.
     
  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know a tape trader who has a copy of it...maybe one of these days I should order it to have a look.

    McCall tended to be a start slow - finish fast guy in most of his career so maybe a late flurry gave a false impression with Tucker getting enough early rounds in the bank. Or maybe instead it was a bit dodgy. Be interesting to know.
     
  9. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCall would get hsi ass handed to him.Foreman would probably make him cry also.
     
  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Foreman would have to rely on his power here. McCall simply doesn't work enough while Foreman kept up the pressure for 12 rounds in many of his later bouts. It would be a tough fight for both but I see Foreman getting the decision.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Would any heavyweight in history stop McCall?

    Also.... for historians....

    When did his chin become legendary?
     
  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funnily enough, the only fight that he was ever stopped in is the one that's usually brought up when discussing McCall's ability to take punishment. Not for bad reasons since McCall just stood there when Lewis unleashed his best punches on him, to little effect.

    He was supposedly never knocked down by a prime Mike Tyson in numerous sparring sessions.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Thanks.

    It's just something I've wondered.

    I mean, he took Bruno the distance, which only one other guy ever did, and Lewis hammered him with allsorts and he was barely stunned.

    Given the fact that he wasn't even protecting himself against Lewis, it wouldn't be unreasonable to say that no fighter could ever KO him.
     
  14. Arka

    Arka New Member Full Member

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    Really? The impression I've been given is that Lewis was slightly holding back.
     
  15. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think George was more clever than Mcall and Mcalls style matches up perfectly for old George. I never saw Mcall look extraordinary technically just kind of a one two stand in front of you guy. George in his old age was clever against one dimensional guys, and I think both have good chins and about the same workrate at this age, but Im going with George on his ring savvy and corner smarts over Mcall.
    I know Mcall beat Holmes, but I think George's size and ring savvy keeps Mcall back from pushing the pace which Holmes couldnt do.