I think Abner Mares would've won a close UD Knockdowns and two or not.

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  1. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Heres my scoring with the knockdowns, no deductions. 117-110 Mares ( 1-2 rounds could have gone either way.

    The knockdown early in the fight was legit. And the one in round 11 was a low blow, and not legit. So heres my score with two point deductions as they should've happened. Here's my score. 114-113 Mares. Or a draw. Also, I have a feeling the low blows were accidental, He tries body shots as he did verses Vic Darchinyan. And Agbeko pushed him down which caused a couple low blows, but still, Abner Mares should have been warned and had points deducted. Mares is a good fighter, he needs to be more careful with the low blows, he would beat everyone in the division except Donaire at this point in my opinion.

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  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think both Abeko and Mares got a good chance to beat Donaire. Both Durable and big dudes for the division. I don't think is fair to write off abeko when he is getting hit low constantly. No fight can focus in a fight when they have to watch out from getting hit in the nuts.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Mares a lot and took him against Perez but i thought he got lucky over Vic on the decision. and received more damage against abeko.
     
  4. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it 6 rounds agbeko, 5 rounds mares, one round even, the 2 false knockdowns and lack of point deductions ****ed over Agbeko IMO
     
  5. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bull**** about Agbeko pulling Mares down it happened a few times. Not as many times as Mares threw low blows.

    I rewatched the fight again today and I came to a shocking statistic. Abner Mares threw a beltline or low blow IN EVERY SINGLE ROUND OF THAT FIGHT ON SATURDAY, EVERY SINGLE ONE. has everyone ever heard of anything like this where the fighter was not docked a point let alone disqualified.
     
  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I like both fighters and I actually became a fan of Agbeko I like his style better than Mares, but I agree with Slice. Mares without the knockdowns got a huge early lead and hung in there the last rounds that mostly belonged to Agbeko. Mares landed punches in bunches while Agbeko landed the stronger, cleaner shots. Without the knockdowns its too close to call. The judge that gavem a draw counting the knockdowns thats bull****.
     
  7. beefman180

    beefman180 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A competent ref would have taken at least 2 points if not DQ'ed Mares by that point though so even if you swing it this way it's ****ed
     
  8. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Naiive or paid blogger by GBP.
     
  9. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    unfortunately in the 1st round Agbeko slipped and got clipped with a punch. According to the rules, that is a legitimate knockdown and I have no problem it being ruled as such......however its up to the judges to decide whether to take a point away...its a 10 point must system not a 10-8 must system with a knockdown...they have the leeway to decide that it wasn't a real knockdown and discard it and just give Mares a 10-9 round. Of course the 11th round was bull**** without the bogus call and with a point deduction from Mares we have a majority draw for the bout. Who knows what the outcome would have been if there wasn't 20-25 low blows landed which is why there should have been a disqualification.
     
  10. Doc

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    Good score I had it Draw or up by 1, because the 1st KD was legit.. still was a very good fight and the Low Blow situation is being blow out of proportion minus the nut shot because all but 3-4 were on the belt line and above, Nut shot was probably retribution for Abgeko constantly pushing mares down, and trying to headbut by leading with his head, most evident in rd 6.
     
  11. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NO. He should have been disqualified.
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with Oscar, 115-111 for Mares. Also his punch landed on the glove, still, Ward should have been disq. when he head butted Kessler, it was illegal, he won by illegal headbutt. Dirrell's brother should have been disq. for hitting his opponent under the cup! What about Vic? Where's the outrage?! How about Dale Brown/O'Neil Bell?
     
  13. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Mares would lose a fair fight to either Agbeko or Darchinyan.

    Even being the most blatant cheater in modern boxing, Mares can only scrape victories against these guys. Exactly how much do you think gets taken out of you by even one deliberate low blow, let alone dozens?

    Any of the people here who think that Mares could win a fair fight, want to upload a you tube video of themselves getting repeatedly hit in the balls? Then trying to do anything athletic afterwards?
     
  14. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he should have.

    The obviously corrupt ref took away his focus and the 'fight' was just rubbish from there. He tried to regain focus but was more and more focusing on the ref than the opponent.

    Noone can win like that.

    Therefore the 'fight' doesn't matter because the whole setting was a travesty that extremely heavily made it easier for Mares.

    There is no way anyone should take away the low blows and then call the rest a fight. The low blows destroyed the fight completely for Agbeko and even when Mares did not low blow him he had to consider the distinct possibility and the ref etc. So he was ****ed because noone can look good nor win under those circumstances.
     
  15. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    ****in' corrupt bloggers! :rofl

    I had it similar to Royal-T-Bags:

    Considering the following:

    - First KD was a slip, and shouldn't have been scored.
    - Second KD was a lowblow, and shouldn't have been scored.
    - The repeated lowblows should have led to a DQ
    - If not a DQ, the repeated low blows should have given Agbeko at least a couple of 10-8 rounds.

    The result is hard to stomach if you're an Agbeko fan. It's fair to call that not only a robbery, but a raping too. The poor guy got ****ed over blatantly.