I think Fury was right not to face Wilder immediately

Fury would be wise not to be thrown into the lions den again. The gypsy king had problems just standing on his feet when he felt Deontay's devastating power!

 

That's true, but I'm pretty sure that if a rematch were to happen, either Tyson wins beyond judges' repair, doesn't make it to the final bell or gets robbed so blatantly that the whole boxing world cries out.
Now with the last option history would eventually act as if a robbery never took place, like in most cases, but it wouldn't hurt Fury's standing in the short run at least.

 

Exactly.Wilder is the one who can change the outcome in a split second. Fury has to go through training and everything and fight perfectly because he really was the better fighter, and yet he almost lost at the end after fighting a perfect fight. The first fight showed how the second fight would be very hard to pick.

 

It's amazing the Fury fans keep defending how he keeps ducking rematches. What about the Wlad rematch? Was Fury also right to duck that?

 

He didn't face him immediately bc Team Wilder insisted on a Barclays center to rob him twice knowing any other venue would be under pressure to score the fight correctly.

This was the hold up and it was long enough for Bob Arum to jump in where Furys not going to turn down more money bc he's not a dummy like Wilder who is not in control of his own career ,

 

Fighters are human and I am sure a fight like this takes a lot of concentration and thinking to get up for it. And Fury fought a perfect fight and still barely won. After Hearns, Hagler seemed to lose a little interest. He knew he put his all out there, and I am sure Fury knew himself. Why should he go in there and fight Wilder if he is not motivated like he should be. He has to be motivated. I think if he fights Joshua he would be motivated. On another topic, I read that Vlad wants 100 million to comeback, as though he retired after beating Fury and Joshua.

 

Yeah but there are examples that go the other way. Like many thought RJJ was lucky to beat Tarver, I wasn't one of them, but then in the rematch Tarver KO'ed Roy. It's what made the rematch so interesting.

Sometimes a fighter who feels hard done by rises to the occasion in the rematch and decisively wins to reverse the controversial first lost, but then again the fighter who sometimes got lucky in the first fight silences his doubters in the rematch.

In regards to Fury/Wilder who knows if Wilder would of found redemption and gotten the KO 2nd time around or if Fury would come in, better prepared and shut out Wilder.

 

You make some good points, but I think it very much depends on how the first fight went down that determines how the two perform in a rematch. In Froch vs Groves, Froch had the experience and the goods to beat Groves but got caught clean in the first and spent the rest of the fight trying to claw his way back.

In Jones vs Tarver many felt that Jones shouldn't have won, so that was a case of the wronged fighter getting revenge.

In Kovalev vs Ward, the fight was fairly even for long stretches, and Ward is a master tactician who was able to learn from his mistakes to rectify them in the rematch.

Fury vs Wilder was more or less a one sided schooling with a knockdown at the end to even keep Wilder in the conversation. In fights like that history has shown it's the boxer who comes into the rematch more prepared. Wilder isn't going to be able to make any tactical refinements to his gameplay for the rematch because he lacks any functional braincells, so in essence he has to rely on Fury coming in underprepared or unfocused. That's a possibility, but I think Fury would be desperate to silence the critics and put on an even more one sided performance.

Wilder is certainly not in a better place, mentally. He seems almost like a broken man, and I don't expect him to perform particularly well against Breazeale or anyone from here on out.

 

I’m a Fury fan but he shat the bed and is fighting Tom Schwarz so let’s not even try to defend him

 

I don't think he was right to duck the Wilder rematch but Wladimir did nothing in his fight with Fury to warrant an immediate rematch, which was somehow in the contract despite it being a mandatory defence.
Klitschko was awful against Fury in 2015, and Fury beat him so clearly without even doing much of anything. Dreadful fight.
Dreadful rematch clause and a great example of why rematches clauses should be prohibited.
I don't agree with the way Fury conducted himself and messed KLitschko around BUT Klitschko didn't deserve the rematch at that point.

 

Especially if he keeps taking massive shots, it can't help anyone, I mean look at Ali

 

Fury was robbed against Wilder for the WBC title, so I understand if he doesn't want to face Wilder again without the big players and momentum behind him.
Wilder is a dangerous fight and he already got robbed, so he's hardly going to sign up for more of the same treatment, is he ??
You'd have to be an idiot to make the same mistake twice.
If he had the WBC belt around his waist now we'd be in a better position to criticize this "duck".

Having said all that, the Fury-Schwarz fight is terrible and really opens Fury to a lot of contempt. I have no interest in the fight tand little interest in Fury until he decides to fight someone decent.

 

He lacks a knockout punch and is dependent on fair judging if he wants a chance at winning. Given that, I don't blame him for not wanting to rely on another set of PBC/Showtime appointed judges. It's annoying for the fans who wanted to see a rematch happen next, but I don't blame Fury for seeking to bolter his position before that happens.

 

From a defencive standpoint yes. But Fury had many oppurtunities to go for the KO. He was too gunshy when he had Wilder in trouble on number of occations.

 

True, but I think he was boxing to his trainers plan when he declined to push his advantage.