I think Holyfield beats 70s Foreman is that an unpopular opinion?

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  1. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It wasn't me who said anything about using a hammer to dent the bag. It must have been someone else. I have said that the way GF hit that bag is the way he punched in the fight, slow, telegraphed punches that Ali saw coming and pushed or pulled GF, to take the power off the punches. Old heavy bags, before they had a foam layer below the outer layer would dent easily. Then, over time the canvas or leather would get weak over the dent and a hole would develop and the stuffing would start coming out and the gym owner would have to use duct tape over the hole and wrap the bag. Putting foam under the canvas or leather improved heavy bags and made them last longer.
     
  2. Journeyman92

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    My bad, it might have been @Saintpat I have mixed you both up in the past. I didn't know this either. What did you think of the way Ali fought off the ropes in that bout? A lot of people think it's a great showcase, in general to me Ali on the ropes and inside looks "off"? like he was making thing's harder for himself and should probably be glad it's George Foreman and not Joe Louis.
     
  3. BCS8

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    Yep Louis had faster, more accurate hands than Foreman
     
  4. slash

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    I didn't know that Holyfield brought out such pissed off losers. Full of venom.

    Look, Foreman all-time is #5.. Holyfield all-time is number #4 to number #9.. too good a boxer x's and o's
     
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  5. Journeyman92

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    I once used a bag like that, I couldn’t even do push ups after throwing a few rubbish jabs at it. I was slightly annoyed at Marciano hyping it up,
     
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    Oh wow another clip of someone who can punch doing the heavy bag… this guy moves around it though my apologises so between the punching as a warning you might have to watch him move his feet, head and weave etc but don’t click off so fast he’ll go back to throwing hard punches at a bag I promise, scouts honour.
     
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  7. Jon Saxon

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    Holy stops an exhausted 'young' George in 10.
    Old George was smarter and more padded
     
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  8. Journeyman92

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    Like who ever stopped Holyfield early? If Holyfield has the same plan for Foreman that he worked with for Tyson and Bowe this is an ugly, smothering fight. EH slices up Foreman with his left stays safe for a few rounds, wrestling, jabbing, getting in or using his legs and wears him down the stretch and rolls out the combos… if Holyfield was getting inside Bowe and Tyson’s faster, shorter but also looped punches he’d be all over Foreman.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Well, that’s your opinion and I obviously disagree. Sweet.
     
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    I can guarantee that Ali was not impressed or intimidated by Foreman or anyone else hitting a heavy bag. Most boxers would not be impressed.
     
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    Part of the reason for hitting a heavy bag is to get some “swing” in the bag so the boxer can step around and to move and counter. Wailing on a heavy bag endlessly is a sure way to bust up a fighters hands. Obviously there is no replacement for mitt work and it much easier on the hands and a more effective training tool overall.
     
  15. Journeyman92

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    This man’s obviously an alt right?
     
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