I think hops will beat pav

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Phil, Jul 19, 2008.


  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Well -- I wasn't thinking about Joe, I was just thinking about names that have been mentoned since Joe made the RJJ fight.

    One of the things I really like about this fight is the opportunity to learn that it gives Pavlik. BHop, at 43, is still a big challenge. You can spar, watch tape, et, until your ass falls off, and it will not do for you what a real fight with a world class opponent will do.

    Now humor me for a moment. What if Pavlik does stop Hopkins, and look good doing it?

    A: It solidifies his rep, and his place on the p4p top 10 list.

    B: Nothing; all he did was beat up an old man.

    C: something in between.
     
  2. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Simple...the answer is A.

    Tho I am sure some idiots will try and press answer B on us all.

    Now flip that question. What if Bernard outclasses Kelly? What does that do for his legacy?
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    If Bernard can pull if a win, it most certainly says that he is still one of the worlds beat active fighters. as for legacy, I think that depends somewhat on what Pavlik did afterward. Hypothetically, if Pavlik dropped back down to 160, and beat Abraham, that would be HUGE for Hopkins' legacy.
     
  4. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I am very unsure about this fight. Just a few days ago I predicted Kelly to win clearly, but thinking about it..I dunno. I have mistakenly underrated the hell out of Hopkins
     
  5. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Damn near everyone has at some point
     
  6. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Joe C is no Pavlik at this point. Pavlik can bring pressure that is MUCH more whithering than Joe C can at this point in his career.
     
  7. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After this fight, Hopkins will have to look his mother in the eye and admit that he was beaten by two white boys and knocked the F out by one of them. And it don't get more white than Pavlik.
     
  8. dontplamelikdat

    dontplamelikdat Member Full Member

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    Pavlik beats Hopkins. Pavlik destroys Calzaghe.
     
  9. billyconn

    billyconn Active Member Full Member

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    Air balls:lol: ...**** in comparison....makes Shaq look like Rick Barry at the foul line....
     
  10. Hermit

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    If his eyes were open it might have helped.
     
  11. billyconn

    billyconn Active Member Full Member

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    he looked very tense, his neck was all strained....

    I think Kelly throws better, more technical and crisper punches than Calzaghe does...
     
  12. Hermit

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    I just rewatched the Cal/Bhop fight. Cal was having trouble until he did one of his famous 'adjustments'. That adjustment? He shortened up his punches. Well, Pavlik already does that so he is ahead of what Calzaghe did by about 3 rounds. People REALLY underestimate fundamentals when it comes to Pavlik.
     
  13. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I couldnt agree more

    A-pavlik will look like an ameture

    B-i think hopkins nicks the fight :good
     
  14. billyconn

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    His fans remind me of one of my friends. He always bragged about his son knowing his ABC's and counting to 10. I said George "Lots of 13 year olds can do that...."
     
  15. OneTwo

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    Ridiculous post. Who says shorter punches will be the tactic to beat hopkins this time around? Hopkins may change his style slightly and then what will pavlik do? we don't know because we've never seen him use a different style (he hasnt needed to). But the way you belittle Calzaghe's ability to adjust mid fight is REALLY ridiculous. The ability to adapt/change style mid fight is a great quality in a fighter that could in the end, change an L to a W