I think I have an idea of how Greb operated based on his training film.

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  1. Mendoza

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    What about it? No one here has seen it ( outside of Klompton and he has no way to prove that he did ), so feel free to comment.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Like I said, I was never able to follow who had and who hadn't seen it.
    Thanks for clearing that up. :good
     
  3. Mendoza

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    There's a reason for that. Now, if you want to comment on the film link provided please do so.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, it's good footage, most of us have seen before.
    It clearly shows him sparring. The only problem I have is that he's sparring with an old man and mainly, I assume, for the cameras.
    So how characteristic that is of his typical style, I can't say.
     
  5. klompton2

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    I thought kurt conemier was generous enough to allow you to see it. If you are so convinced its genuine then you shouldnt just "have an idea" how he fought... But then we both know that kurts film is about as genuine as a $3 bill.
     
  6. mcvey

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    What happened with the so called" Greb v Gans" film?


    You said you were offered a screening of it ,have you seen it or not?
    How come this has died ?
    If such a milestone of boxing film had been discovered and conclusively verified it would be trumpeted and to all and sundry. With an appropriate price tag attached!
     
  7. BCS8

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  8. Mendoza

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    Yes, he has. I have no plans to fly to Minnesota, however if he's down near me, I'll see it.

    Since you claim to have the tape, why not tell me some specifics of the action? This way if I ever see it I can tell verify if you have seen it. Can you do this?

    It's obvious you have issues with Kurt. Anyone can mistake a label and wrongly ID a fighter unless they are experts on him.

    By the way, while I have your attention I want you to know I heard you on the radio. I was expecting an energetic Stephen A. Smith type that fits your internet persona and sometimes attack oriented nature. Much to my surprise you were soften spoken, almost sedated like on the radio call.

    PS: Greb a bit like Mayorga you say? Care to tell us why you think so?
     
  9. klompton2

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    Keep us posted on how that goes... :roll:


    Ive already posted the two most pertinent facts about this vhs tape (not film, Kurt doesnt and never did have a film of this) 1. Kurt is a lying con man who has been caught red handed doing this before as I proved using his own website. 2. This film isnt Greb and certainly couldnt be Greb-Gans. Beyond that I dont give two ****s what some dip****, nameless moron on the internet chooses to believe or chooses to use as ammunition for one of his endless trolling marathons.


    I have isssues with any con man who attempts to take advantage of people.


    Exactly, and Kurt is no expert on either film or Greb. Hes a boxing video collector who has made similar "mistakes" at least half a dozen times. So why should I or anyone else put our faith in his assertions when hes been so wrong so many times? You dont get to call yourself an expert by being so monumentally wrong so many times and so consistently.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Klompton,

    What if its Gans. That would be a find, correct?

    I've asked before if you have the tape, can you describe the action and points that stick out?

    Also why do you think Greb was like Mayorga?

    At times you tend to go silent on questions asked. You aren't obligated to answer them, but when you don't it makes people wonder why.
     
  11. klompton2

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    I dont deal in "what ifs" im not going to be baited by you into redirecting this argument from "its Greb" to "what if its Gans, wouldnt that be cool too?" Especially when there is absolutely no evidence its Gans either, and has already been misidentified by this lying con man once as having been Bill Tate instead of Gans despite a massive physical discrepency.

    As for the tape I say again, ive already described exactly why this isnt Greb-Gans or Greb-Tate for that matter. Ive proven my point. If you choose to blindly follow some moronic liar just because you are scared to death of admitting you are wrong then so be it.

    If you have any other questions about my thoughts on Greb read my book.
     
  12. mcvey

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    For what its worth,if you say you have seen this footage I believe you.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    You still won't describe the action as I requested 3x ( Very different than saying why it is not Greb ), but it appears you are correct for other reasons.

    My stance was people who have seen it said it was Greb. I value their opinions and they are boxing people. I have not seen the film, but 3-4 names in boxing said so.

    Now they are changing their minds, not because of the night and day issue, but because the fighters are wearing trunks and shoes from the 1950's.

    At this point a retraction of the names who have seen the film is enough to make me change my mind. Its not Greb.

    All that's left if to determine who the fighters are. Anyone filmed usually was a somebody in the 1950's.

    I felt like I took one of MCvey's incorrect statements from a book as fact. Mistakes happen. I believe you said you're not even sure if you could ID a Greb film yourself.

    I'll offer an apology for those who held out hope.

    -M
     
  14. BCS8

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    Sounds fair enough to me.

    I'd also like to believe there's a Greb film out there somewhere.

    :(
     
  15. mcvey

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    Please produce any incorrect statements I have made.In return I will provide 3 of yours for every one of mine you can find.

    DEAL?