i think Kell Brook will retire

As a huge Brook fan I would like to see him retire unless he can get a fight vs Khan.

He will never be able to fight with the same confidence knowing he is risking his sight everytime he steps into the ring.

The GGG fight was a big gamble that didn't pay off and it's costed him dearly.

The guy dared to be great and came up short.

 

I just wish he never took the GGG fight, he didn't need to.

Before that it was meant to be Vargas for 147 unification (IBF/WBO). He would have won that and then almost certainly got a Pacman payday, especially since he's on his retirement tour

Losing to Pac or Keith, no shame in that. Then they could have moved up from there.

Someone should have said that it was just an unnecessary fight. Ultimately it's ruined his career because the impact it has mentally. It will always be in his mind

 

I think its stupid to retire. Obviously he needs to take medical advice on board etc. But if he gets the green light to fight on...which he should. Its time to get back on it. But only if he can still make 147...again i think he can. If he was dead at the weight them body shots would have caused bigger problems...earlier in the fight. The body work spence did employ...would have got to anyone in the end not just guys struggling at the weight.

I think 154,s just gonna see him fight inferior names but its just as difficult if not moreso in there...bigger punchers/stronger guys/take shots better etc. 47 to 54,s a pretty decent jump up in weight.

147,s red hot atm. He just needs what he should have had from the beginning...managed properly. Needs a couple of fights against the fringe top 10. After that its on to the lower end of the top guys and build up from there. Brook will give anyone a fight if hes managed properly. But there all pretty much 50/50,s. They always have been.

But give him the fights at the right time...and hes got a chance. Pretty much what they ve not done tifrom the start. Great fighter....without trying to be disrespectful to brook fans a day after a loss tho. But they ve been living in fantasy land in recent years with the he ll be too much for canelo. Walkover job against khan. Beat pacman easy etc etc. But he does have a chance against any in 147 tho...probably with the exception of spence. The problem is his divisions filled with pretty good fighters. Its not quite as easy to win and hold a belt in that division than a lot of other divisions.

 

Someone please put me straight, I'm not a know all and will gladly listen to people...why was it so bad to go 5 rounds with GGG (in which was very even on the judges cards at the point of the towel going in)?

Brook didn't lose to Spence Jn because of GGG. Spence Jn is a fantastic fighter in his own right and potentially the strongest welterweight in the world. He could have fought Vargas but eventually he was gonna have to fight the Thurman's, the Garcia's and now the Spence's.

Brook's too big for a welterweight. Bellew was too big for a light heavy. There are lots of other examples. He's grown into a natural 154. If it's medically safe for him to continue then he will excel in that division with the extra weight he'll carry.

 

If he's medically fine to continue then fight Khan at 147 or 154 and then retire. If he can't get Khan then he should just retire because i don't think Pacquiao or anyone who'd give him a big payday. Eddie can still sell the Khan fight.

No reason to go and fight Jarett Hurd, Jermell Charlo, Andrade and Lara at 154 because it makes no financial sense and i fancy all four to beat him.

 

I think Brook would have beaten Vargas and then a matchup potentially against Thurman would have come together imo.

Brook wouldn't have got his orbital bone broken if he didn't fight GGG and become mentally damaged also because of that. He wasn't winning the fight by round 5. He landed a good uppercut and made GGG miss but nothing much else.

I don't think he excels at 154. Out of Jarrett Hurd, Trout, Jermell Charlo, Andrade and Lara i think he could possibly just barely beat Hurd on points though i think Hurd would likely stop him.

 

Thanks for the reply mate.

2 of the judges had Brook GGG even and one judge had Brook ahead. People put the injury down to GGG's size and weight advantage and resulting power...yet, Spence inflicted the same injury to the other eye socket.

GGG is held in very high esteem and I think people want to add to the myth by saying he took Brook's career with his overwhelming power. What I would say back is that if Brook's career is over, one man did that and that was Spence Jn. Spence was going to stop him, if not in round 11 but deffo round 12. Brook had nothing left.

 

I think the judges were being very kind as Brook nearly went down two times before round 5. GGG said after the fight Brook won't be the same in his own words.

He was the natural smaller man ''frame wise'' against GGG. If Eubank Jr found his pen then the fight wouldn't have happened.

I think Spence's body work is too accurate and Brook had no way to defend them. Brook was just countering with a jab and rarely went to the body as he had little opportunity to do so. I think the better fighter won regardless of the scenario leading upto the fight with the weight and the orbital bone injury.

 

Brook too GGG for £££ and no one can blame him for that so let's stop mentioning it. I think he should retire after one or two more fights, but he shouldn't retire on a loss.

 

I personally don't want him to retire and I don't think he will. After having surgery to insert titanium on the left eye it will be stronger.

Kell didn't seem to have much energy after 8 rounds, i was shocked as he is usually very strong. I think coming down to 147 was a big gamble now, hindsight is a great thing. He can certainly win a title @154 then retire.

 

Brook GGG was a free pass for Brook in my opinion. If he lost, so what he'd moved up virtually a stone to fight someone nobody another 8lbs heavier genuinely wanted to fight. What happened was always likely to, same as Khan Alvarez they both impressed technically and Brook inparticular showed great fight in there and actually made Golovkin think twice but they were always going to either come under sustained attacks or caught with a bomb. By bigger men that's what happens isn't it. It's for money, so fair enough even though I think the Vargas fight should have happened and he'd have made more money in the long run that way.

I'm not a doctor but until someone in the know can prove that a broken eye socket is likely to cause the OTHER eye socket to go in a fight and not the already broke one (as if) I refuse to believe GGG destroyed Brook's career. How? I understand that he's got the doctors scary words in his head but it was Spence who did this injury and he was losing anyway. What were the official scorecards at the time of stoppage?

The way I see it Brook has only lost one proper fight and it shouldn't be made out like he's finished, way down the pecking order and needs to retire. He's lost to one man his own weight. The only way that should even be considered is if the doctor tells him and that won't be anyone's fault just a crazy coincidence in two consecutive fights different eye sockets have broke and shattered his confidence.

 

he should retire but i think he needs a few more bigish paydays

 

Only ppv fight out there for him now is Khan. Maybe 79/30 may look good now?? I won't be buying another brook ppv unless it's v Khan, even that's a hard sell now for me.