I think Larry Holmes was jealous of Ali

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  1. Jay1990

    Jay1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe it's me but I remember him calling Ali overrated, And in some interviews he actually counts beating a shot Ali in 1980 as a win (Even tho he did) and he has a portrait of him beating him in his house. What y'all think???
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Really? Larry jealous and bitter?

    You might be on to something.
     
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  3. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why do you think he's jealous? Maybe he thought ali was overated because he actually was. Well, that's just my opinion, although I diid think he was really good. Maybe he thought he was overated because he knew he could have handled him even before he got too old. And why the hell wouldn't he count his fight with him as a win? its nice he has that picture on his wall too
     
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  4. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    He's jealous because he was better than him and people were too blind to appreciate it. :deal
     
  5. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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  6. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes has a huge ego. On an ESPN show with Bert Sugar he modestly rated himself as the #1 heavyweight.
     
  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    yeah no offense but "duh"
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    :rofl

    Holmes always seemed to have some kind of chip in his shoulder.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    What was he better than Ali at? The only thing he's better than Ali at is Jab and even that's arguable.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    So you took a younger Ali and put him in the ring with Holmes? :huh
     
  11. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali always rated himself #1! Its OK for others to do it, but not Larry? Larry was freakin great! He just didn't have a personality that a lot of people appreciated. But he seemed to be a great guy, no stories of him womanizing, draftdodging, or other ****. Didn't end up broke either
     
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  12. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Stronger, more powerful, more fundamentally sound.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Holmes wasn't stronger. When it comes to strength that's applicable to fighting in the ring, Ali had a slight advantage. I'm not saying he'd beat Holmes if they arm wrestled, but when it came to tying up another fighter or holding him and pushing him off, Ali was one of the best. Once he put his hands on his opponent, he made them cease what they were doing.

    Norton and Berbick both said Ali hit harder than Holmes. I've personally spoken with Shavers and he said Ali hit harder than Holmes.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Norton also said Ali was physically stronger,
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holmes had a stronger righthand than Ali. He carried a little more pop on it.