I think Margarito is going to Stop Manny

Though that sounds like the logical answer as to why things went wrong, look at it this way, Margaritos pressure and body work early are what cause Cotto to stray away from the game plan, he knew he had to box and was doing so, he also did hold Margarito when he was hurt.

The problem is Margarito was simply too much for him that night, Margarito made Cotto use his legs more than he expected, and when you do that and try to keep Margarito off of you by throwing combonations like he was and take punishment along the way your body is not going to be able to consistantly hold up like that for 12 hard rounds.

The game plan should have been more like mosleys, get inside run your shots off turn and fire again. He didnt have to use his legs the way he did he could have simply did what mosley did and he would have probably had better results...
Still cant say for sure though as its obvious Tonys mind was not in the fight for Mosley he probably thought he was on his way to jail, either way he knew that the out come of those pads, was not going to do him any favors....

 

You must not have seen too many Pacquiao fights?

Both Marquez fights Pacquiao was constantly being driven to the ropes when Marquez was landing his combinations.
The same in the Cotto fight, Roach constantly was reminding Pacquiao to get off the ropes, and Pac was'nt listening to him.

 

how is Margarito gonna knock Pacquiao out when Pac is obviously on PEDs? A clean Pacquiao gets sparked in 4 rounds. This dirty Pacquiao against a concrete-less damaged Margo wins by KO6.

 

.....let me also add that if a bigger fighter like Margarito starts imposing his size and strenghth, the little man always finds it easier in the face of fatigue to either body up and be forced to trade, or get his back to the ropes and want to rest.
......dancing ones way to a decision is easier said than done.

 

Also, this notion that Cotto fought a dumb fight vs Margarito because he did'nt clinch is ridiculous.

Cotto has never employed a punch and clinch gameplan in his life. Its not in his repertoire.
Alot of fighter dont practice clinching and Cotto is one of them.

Look at both Marquez-Pacquiao fights, when Marquez was hurt, he weathered the storm through boxing, fighting back, and waist movements, but he never clinched Pacquiao not even once during those fights.

......and guess what fella's???
When has Pacquiao ever employed a punch and clinch routine as Mosley did vs Margarito?

Has'nt happened people, and it wont happen vs Margarito.
You've got to be physically as strong or stronger than your opponent to pull that off sucessfully.

.....and for those that dont have a clue, punching hard does'nt equate to being physically strong enough to move a fighter......often times you can have a big strong guy physically imposing his body strenghth on a fighter, but not have the punching power to take him out.
.....and vice versa, someone who can hurt you punching wise, but not be able to move you physically.

 

Divac are you picking Margarito?

 

I've said it quite a few times in this forum that if Pacquiao's gameplan is exactly as it was for DLH, that should be enough to earn him a UD.

I have real doubts however that Pac will be as diciplined as he was for DLH......because imo its going to be more difficult to carry out that plan vs the two fisted Margarito than the one handed happy left hooker in DLH.

......that, plus the fact that Pacquiao himself in his first fight at 147 lbs was undoubtedly more inclined and cautious to stick to the plan vs a bigger fighter.
Pac was entering unknown territory vs DLH, so its only natural to not deviate from the map......

......but with Pac's now sucess vs the likes of Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey, I think that in his comfort of the weight, he's likely more inclined now to think he can do what he did to everyone what he did to the fighters I named.........
......this can very well get Pacquiao into trouble vs Margarito, because Margarito is bigger, stronger, more relentless, and more importantly his will and toughness are beyond any of Pac's previous opponents at 147 lbs.

I'm not picking Margarito, but I sure do think because of the factors I named, he's a very live dog.

If Pacquiao deviates from the plan and does'nt fight diciplined, he will get beat by Margarito.

Pacquiao needs to fight diciplined like he did vs DLH.
If he fights undiciplined in large spurts like he did vs Cotto, Margarito is not Cotto, Margarito will make him pay.

 

oh, so you're picking Pacquiao

 

Pacquiao can take a good shot, he marks up though. He's a tough mo-fo. Despite basically kicking Cotto's ass, Pacquiao face afterwards looked afterwards like he took an LAPD style beatdown.

Will Margarito land enough though where this makes much of a difference?

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

don't make him admit that because it is burdensome on his part. :nut

part of him tells him to pick margo out of sheer hate over pacman but part of him also tells him to logically pick pac. he's in a dilemma right now..

 

I think Margarito will stop Pac too.. This isn't going the distance, so either Margarito or Pac will wear there opponent down before the final bell.

I'm thinking Pac will wear himself out in the process of trying to hold off Margarito. I can easily see this going the other way, but I think size and Margarito's cutting off the ring better with a defense in his new training will be the deciding factor.

 

Sooo... is he gonna be on suicide watch soon?

 

Is this Pacquiao fans trying to convince people this will be a meaningful win?

Every site I go on, I read Filipinos claiming "Manny isn't training" and "Manny has lost the hunger", trying to come up with excuses should he lose.

It's a hard fight for Manny, because he's hugely overrated.

Any real elite guy, would go in with a clown like Margarito and make him chase shadows. Even Cotto made him look average for 6 rounds.

If Pacquiao wants to call himself the best around, and a HOFer, he goes in with Margarito and makes him look like an amateur.

If he struggles (he might) that's just the result of Roach hand picking him perfectly matched opponents since Marquez exposed his ass.

Personally - I can see Manny losing. He's pretty limited technically, gets hit easily, and Margarito throws a lot of shots.

It could end up being just two brawlers landing bombs on each other, and seeing who hits the ground first.

Margarito will land bombs. He landed bombs on Mosely all night. Shane was classy enough to get around that though.

 

It's hard to pick, as in theory Margarito's a chump, who Shane Mosely outclassed.

But at the same time, who's saying Pacquiao's better than Shane Mosely?

I'm not sure he is