I think Mayweather would have beaten Loma at 130

Respect the opinion but Mayweather, makes it look easy my reasons being Floyd is more skilled, and more athletic. We probably won't agree on him being more skilled. Loma is a rockstar and a amazing boxer. But for me Floyd is hands down the GOAT at 130. Before anyone responds, please look at it objectively and take 147 Floyd of your mind.

 

Floyd certainly has the edge in reflexes and physical dimensions. I personally think Lomachenko is at least as skilled technically (I know this is highly controversial), but you make an excellent point:

People need to take the 147 Floyd out of their minds to appreciate his skills.

The 147 Floyd was still the best in the division but he was not nearly as good as the younger 130 lb version, whom I also have as history's best at 130 lb.

 

I think the version of Floyd that fought and defeated Corrales, Hernandez and Chavez probably equals Loma in terms of skill (at least). He was close to the finished product at this point, at any rate. Plus he's naturally larger, maybe a bit faster, and tends to start more quickly. That last part is important, because by the time Loma could figure out Floyd's rhythm, he'd already be behind on the cards.

Floyd wins a decision that's competitive, but clear.

 

It's too early for people to make this judgement, ultimately. Because of what Floyd achieved, he should by default always be seen as the favourite.
With that said, I firmly believe Lomachenko would win a wide decision. In the last couple of months, I've been watching Floyd's reign at 130 and I am left astounded at claims that Mayweather was 'aggressive'. He was slightly more aggressive than this current version of Mayweather, of course, but the difference in aggressiveness between 130 and prime 147 PBF is small. People just watch his highlights at the smaller weight classes and deduce certain things. Lomachenko has infinitely better highlights than Mayweather, we don't go off highlights.

With Floyd's game, I can see what he's doing and understand it. With Lomachenko's game, it's so hard to understand. There's levels.

Styles make fights. Mayweather was a defensive fighter. Mayweather offers Lomachenko far too much space to operate. Lomachenko is the better pure boxer. Lomachenko's style HAD to incorporate dealing with the longer, bigger opponents. When they eradicated the 126lb division and he had to move up to 132, he was very small compared to his opponents. I feel he performs better against longer opponents.
Boxing is a rough sport but Mayweather does very little to make it rough in this matchup. He doesn't have an Andre Ward roughness and Lomachenko is now quick to complain to the ref over just about anything.

One thing one shouldn't do is heniously overrate his performance vs Corrales. Up until recently, I had no idea that Corrales was extremely drained. I usually don't care if they're a little drained but if it's to the extent of Corrales' back story, then unfortunately for Floyd, it takes away from the value of his performance and it's not even his fault. Corrales is not an ATG or even a HOF level fighter. People are doing a great deal of raising Floyd to the highest platform for beating Corrales.

 

I don't think Floyd is more skilled than Lomachenko. He is just focused on defense 100%. The way boxing works, you can be very negative, run, clinch and win fights. Floyd does all of that and is very skilled and athletic. But his offense is not really varied or especially impressive. And although his defense is great, it's not as impressive when you are focused almost completely on that.

Lomachenko seems more skilled because he can be much more aggressive and still maintain a good defense. His arsenal seems more varied too and he uses combinations often.

But in boxing, being super negative is the most successful style. Lomachenko would be trying to engage, apply his skills, but Floyd refuses and relies on his defense and movement, lands a couple of potshots and limits Loma's output, and wins. Very good possibility of that happening.

 

The reach advantage PBF has in this fight is too much for Loma to overcome. PBF knows how to fight tall and Loma would have hell trying to get to him. PBF is a bad styles match up for Loma.

 

PBF would land hard shots after hard shots and eventually get the stoppage. Loma puts up a good fight though, but not the same class.

 

Floyd is too much for Loma. I respect your opinions but Floyd is the more complete fighter at 130. Besides the fact that we can't tell how good Loma is the amount of fights is way to small

 

This shows you never watched Floyd below 147 Ibs

 

How many fights of PBF did you watch at 130? Not many I take it, he's the GOAT at that weight.

 

Mayweather is just too versatile for even Loma. Mayweather would have some trouble early on, he wasn't as defensive as he was in recent years, hed try to match his offense against Loma, where Loma is superior, but Floyd would adjust midfight. I don't think he'd outbox Loma tho, Loma's footwork is on par or better than Floyd's. Floyd would tear Loma apart on the inside, clinch and hit to the body with an occasional uppercut. As great as Loma is, he showed he struggles mightily against an elite inside fighter like Salido. Mayweather would win a close decision in a very tactical fight. Both are very strong at 130, but neither is getting ko'd.

 

Yeah, you need to go watch some of PBF @130. Your assessment of him as a defense-only fighter who lacks variety in attack is way off the mark...

 

I agree that this question will be easier to debate in the future, still a little early. The reach advantage is significant, Floyd's faster too

But, he still favored defense first back then, the dude just don't like being hit. And Loma would get past the Philly shell I have no doubt of that

About the only thing I can predict now is that they are going to end up 1-2 as GOAT at 130. Dream fight

 

Here's a serious question that I would like your thoughts on. But again keep 147floyd out of the picture. If you've never watched more than 3 fights of floyds at 130. Don't bother replying. What can you say without a doubt 100% realistically Loma does better? It's not inside game and it's not boxing ability they are both technically sound, but no one can honestly that one is better than the other. How can you people honestly say after a few fights that Loma is better than someone who's arguably the best at the weight? That's like Thurman going up two weight classes and saying he's better than Hagler/SRR after two fights. The sample size is way to small. Some of you and your logic on this board.

Sidenote: Loma may have better footwork but I can't even say that fairly I need to see more