Whats with constantly pushing the Floyd is more athletic narrative? What are you basing that on: Loma can traverse the length of a boxing ring doing a hand stand while bounding. he also clims ropes with no leg assistance with additional weight attached to his waist. Also incorporates hand eye coordination drills and feats of agility and speed that Floyd could never dream of doing. This Floyd is more athletic is just ignorant and reeks of code drenched in stereotype.
Couldn't agree more with your statement. Loma's incredible feats of agility have me wondering if he is a computer simulation.
No what it feels like is reality a sobering dose of it. Loma has 10 wins and a loss yet you overzealous fools are declaring him the greatest boxer ever. It's flat out disrespectful especially to people like me who know boxing and have seen better boxers than loma. When loma can a pull counter and then throw and land 2 consecutive straight right hands or better yet a land a pull counter then slip the counter in 5 different weight classes then come back and talk to me about being more athletic until then go back to the lounge with your boy Todd because I'm talking boxing and schooling trolls here in the general.
You gotta give this to Mayweather, his career has essentially been over for a few years now, and he already earned and cemented his legacy and greatness. I'm not saying Loma can't match FMJ or surpass him but if he does that will be a serious achievement even for him. I don't know the whole history of professional boxing, but I highly doubt there has been a boxer - at least within the last 50 or so years - that has done what Lomachenko has done in their first 11 fights while seemingly improving noticeably in each fight and while also single handedly evolving the sport so much and so fast in only 11 fights. I mean, that/he is incredible as a fighter. But his career - barring anything unforeseen - and he himself as a fighter probably isn't close to ending, at least probably not in the next 5 years. So we haven't seen the best of him yet, we don't know what his ceiling is at this point, just too early to tell. Even if you're not a fan of FMJ, taking Loma as a fighter after only his first 11 fights and saying he/it is > FMJ's entire body of work is a slap in the face to boxing altogether. The man earned everything he achieved whether you like him or not.
Your hero lost 8 times in the amateurs and the VAST MAJORITY feel he lost the first fight against Castillo. Quit acting like Void is unbeatable. Lol And let me know when Floyd pulls off countering a fighter with GRJ’s hand speed with 3-4 punch combos to the body and head while making Gary look stupid missing all night long. When was the last time Floyd made fighters of Rigo or Walters caliber quit?? Yeah NEVER.
Your interpretation of athletic is a moving target and seemingly changes constantly. The initial statement was how you found Floyd more athletic then you apply it over the course of many more pro fights and how it manifests in "pull counters" and other skills that are artifacts of boxing technique and not necessarily pure athleticism.
So let's look at it this way lomachenko has had 10 world title fights... When Floyd had his 10th title fight he was 28 fights into his career and his next fight would be moving up in weight to 135 to fight...guess who...Castillo. So the greatest super featherweight of all time according to you moves up, and let's be honest, gets beat by Castillo but is given a gift. That's not good form, the greatest 130 fighter of all time getting slapped around the ring by a guy with 4 losses is it? Especially with 28 fights experience! It will be interesting to see how this 11 fight novice lomachenko compares to to Floyd in his next fight. He may even move to 135 like Floyd. It will be a good measuring stick I'd say. As for moving up the weight classes...well Loma is older than Floyd when he started, so he's pretty much grown into his body already, which is a shame because Loma would have won titles at lower weight classes. When Floyd was Lomachenko's age he would only put on an extra 7 lbs by the end of his career. yet people on here expect Loma to put on 17 lbs to fight Crawford. So that would be equivalent of Floyd fighting GGG at 164lb catch weight. In fact it would be more like asking Floyd to fight a super middle weight, Considering Loma is smaller in weight. Floyds gone, finished and most people would say good riddance!
First off this is a pro boxing forum and we are talking about pro boxing those loses are irrelevant. Pbf is 50-0 loma is 10-1 as a pro. When was the last time anyone landed 3 and 4 punch combos on pbf? It doesn't happen he's either not there to be hit or his counters have guys scared to open up because they know the counter is coming or he rolls or slips their punches. I'm about to school you some more so pay attention. Gary Russell although he's fast throws all his punches the same speed and the same combos all the time he almost reminds me of Amir Khan. Pbf would time Russell's trex armed ass and knock him out in 4 rounds or less at 130. He definitely doesn't lose rounds to Russell the way Loma did.
There are many technical fighters with great technique who can't do it jmm is as technical as they come but he cant and neither can loma. But I'm glad you brought up technical ability because that proves another point as well, thanks.
Jmm may be technical, but Loma is high-tech. There exists a huge gap between their respective abilities.