I think Mayweather would have beaten Loma at 130

I keep hearing how only its haters who bring up the Salido loss because of how greater Loma has gotten 3 years on , but it only took Floyd 8 months to prove he was greater than Castilio so why no mention of that?

And why no mention that Floyd was injured against a bigger man and adapted by turning southpaw? Loma was injury free against Salido and instead of adapting he held excessively.
Floyd was given the decision because of how he adapted defensively on the back foot. ATG fighters will find a way to win because they can adjust to any situation.
In the rematch Floyd had Castilo figured out and won a comfortable decision. In both those fights he was at a size disadvantage like Lomas opponents are against him.

Another thing , Loma may move like the Matrix , but Floyd thinks like the Matrix. There's nothing he doesn't know about boxing and all the subtle tricks of the trade that come with it. Loma still has amateur tendencies and hasn't converted to the pro game as well as say Golovkin. You're not going to shoe- shine -punch a master technical boxer they way you would B leveler. Mayweathers timing , power and digs to the body would make Loma reevaluate his approach. If he tries to Roy Jones Floyd in the pocket he'll find himself blinded by an elbow and shanked to the kidneys. Depth perception is another thing he needs to worry about. You think Floyd is out of range , then in a flash you get a right hand across the face.
There's another level of boxing that Loma has yet to overcome. He'll prove it eventually but he'll still never face anybody on Floyds level.

 

Lol! I know it absolutely bothers the **** out of you that Loma is considered the greatest amateur boxer to lace up the gloves but quit dismissing the amateurs. It’s boxing! And one of the greatest accomplishments in the sport is to win an Olympic Gold medal. Not to get outboxed by a 0-0-0 MMA guy and tko him after he gasses Most don’t care about Voids ‘50-0’ because most of the biggest stage wins came against boxers out of their prime or green. I’d bet ANYTHING you’ve praised the **** out of Ward and Rigo for their Olympic Golds so just spare us the BS dismissive attitude towards the accomplishments in the ams. Lol

And funny because a few years back you were praising GRJ like crazy! You even favored him to “School” Loma correct? Wonder why ya changed!

 

Amateur record has no bearing in pro boxing you cant add those wins or losrs to a pro record. What Loma did in the amateurs and winning 2 gold medals was ridiculous I'm not taking it away from him but it has no bearing in this match up or his pro career or pro record.
I picked Loma to lose because he lost to salido. I now realize that Russell is too stationary and isn't physical enough to beat Loma and would lose again if he faced Loma in a rematch.
Lastly you're a fool if you think conor only lost to pbf because he gassed pbf clearly carried Conor in that fight.

 

So much wrong with this post to even address, nothing more than speculation based on a biased interpretation and/or lack of understanding. Assuming Floyd would dictate range through having faster feet and superior timing is only based upon his exploitation of feasting upon slower plodding fighters that he made a career of fighting. The other stuff about Loma not adjusting to the pro's and still being amateurish along with dwelling on his second pro fight is just plain intellectually lazy.

Lomachenko is still far from a finished product and some are already making assumptions on how his style would work against Floyd's while the latter are scrambling and trying their best to dismiss this threat to the object of their brain washing.

 

What Lomachenko has done after only 11 pro fights is pretty ridiculous as well.

 

It is no argument there.

 

It’s unmatched!

 

Talk about so much wrong with a post......sheesh

 

The thing about Mayweather as a boxer is this: when he was young, he was blessed with a limitless supply ofgod given ability, natural talent, and unparalleled athleticism. What I respect the most about him as a fighter, or one of the things I respect the most about him as a fighter, is that he continuously got better the more his career progressed. Most guys who have that type of natural ability, talent, and athleticism are usually masters at exploiting those edges against fighters that don't come close to him in any of that. Those guys get old once those gifts start declining.

With Floyd though, you could noticeably see the evolution of him as a fighter, and even though he was consistently getting better and better from every fight and avenged any questionable wins in decisive fashion.

Once he got to about 32-33 you could see the changes in his style and transition he was evolving into as a boxer. In any form of combat, you want to try and be as efficient as possible, you don't want to waste energy on anything that won't impact and manipulate the match into what you want it to become. At the end, he wasn't the athlete he had been, nowhere close, but was still a very good athlete. At the end he would basically stand in front of you to an extent and had truly mastered the shoulder roll defense and the style he adapted to it. He was nowhere near as mobile or active as he used to be, but make no mistake, he was the best version of him as a fighter when he was in the twilight of his career. His footwork was immaculate, small, calculated, and subtle movements. It wasn't flashy but one of the biggest contributing factor to his success. His footwork, mastery of distance, ability to adjust in-fight, keep the altercations at his desired range and make world class opponents look d-league one those things along with his perfected shoulder roll defense and offensively his timing was at the pinnacle of the sport as was his accuracy. People would say he pot shotted his way to victory's. In my book, that's unbelievably impressive, he clowned the best in the world on check hooks, doubled straights, and a few other shots. He just refined everything about him and at the end he wasn't the engine he once was, but he developed his chassis into a legit race car chassis and that's how he won. The end of career Mayweather is probably the most refined, evolved, and efficient fighter I've ever seen, who truly mastered certain skills and applied them to his ever evolving style and turned into this ATG machine.

 

That's how casuals see his career when he reached 32 but those who are more knowledgeable about the sport see a guy who looked good over smaller or shot or greener or cherry picked opponents getting his own way with every possible advantage while the whole time being juiced to the eyeballs. I used to really like him but I am not that starry eyed that I couldn't see what was happening from the Marquez fight on.

 

Uh Rigo fills most of that criteria? Who did Floyd fight like Loma? Corley, Judah? Guys who still gave him trouble.
Who did Floyd cold KO at 130? No one.
You’re an absolute nut riding fool if you think Floyd could hang with Lomachenko at any weight class.

 

There's no denying what he's done so far, but he still has ways to catch up to what Floyd did just at 130 pounds alone. You know this but you'll argue regardless.

 

Rigo was inactive 37 years old and was moving up 2 weight classes so stop it. Loma even said it was no big deal and he should have beaten rigo because he was so much smaller. Even still rigo fights nothing like pbf did at 130. Pbfs win over jmm when he moved up was better at least jmm koed an atg in pac after pbf tooled him. Rigo is done small guys like rigo are never dominant at his age, they ate much faster.

You're a nut riding fool if you think a much smaller man with short arms who lost to a guy with 12 loses whose best win is Russell jr hangs with the best fighter of the era. I bet you think Duran jcc and pea Whitaker couldn't hang with Loma to right? Log off.

 

This is the typucal casual hater response. Discredit every opponent and have excuses after every win. Hatton cotto canelo pac all cherry picks yet for any other fighters they are great opponents. That's how stupid your argument is.

 

I'm not a casual, I've boxed for over 15 years and been a fan of it for almost 25 years now.

I'm not any fighter's fan boy, I respect any and all fighters. I know and understand the sacrifices these dudes have to consistently make and live with. On that alone they all deserve respect. I do have a bias, and I'm open about it. I'm open about it so when I talk about fighters from New England - I have a homer bias - people can take what I say how they want knowing that my take is probably pretty skewed by my bias. FMJ isn't a New Englander or from the northeast.

You can pick apart any fighters list of opponents if you sat down and actually put in the effort to do so. But maybe the fans should take the blame on this one. The fans and general public are the ones that are only interested in "0" loss fighters, and casuals won't pay an obscene amount on a PPV for all but a handful of fighters without perfect records nor will the big networks pick up anything but a few fighters like that. Because casuals and the general public made a ruling with their wallet and it said: we're only interested in guys who haven't been beat or that can't be beat. Don't fault the fighters for taking less risks than they have to. This is a brutal sport, and they should do what they can to maximize their profits. Casuals and the public need to look long and hard in the mirror on this one, not the fighters.

Boxing, legacy, greatness, and fans appreciation of his work were all things Floyd cared about immensely. He LIVED boxing since he was 6 years old. If he didn't take PED's I'd personally think less of him. Most if not all world-class fighters take PED's. Some get caught. Floyd - if he did take them and there isn't a doubt in my mind he did - was SMART enough to get away with it. PED's and being smart enough to get away with them go hand in hand and you have to have the latter if you're going to take the former. If boxing means the world to someone who professionally competes at it, and they don't take PED's because they are noble and honest...... Guess what? They are stone cold suckers, that's sucker ****. They could be great boxers but they are also the type of people that would walk into a bad neighborhod and be suckered out cold and have their pockets run and lose everything on them of value before they wake up. If you're a great fighter, I think that's way more embarrassing than getting caught taking PED's. At least PED using fighters stack the deck in their favor and do what it takes to win. Those are TRUE DOGS, Alphas. Honesty and nobility, well, that's beta ****, especially if your top competition is all doing it. WHy handicap yourself if something means the world to you. That's a sign of a habitual loser. But hey, he was an honest guy, right? Ya, he was, and right now he's recovering at home with a fractured orbital bone because he got his head punched in, in front of the world no less.