I think Mayweather would have beaten Loma at 130

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  1. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It’s not just who you beat, you have to factor in how you beat them. Canelo against those three is obviously nowhere near Loma’s three.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    When I made this thread more than a year ago I strongly believed that Mayweather would end up walking Loma down. But now I can't see it. As I've watched Lomachenko more I've realized that I've underestimated him. Mayweather despite being the bigger, stronger man would play the role of counter puncher in this fight. Loma will come towards him because he can't win on the outside. Lomachenko has to come to Mayweather to win the fight. Mayweather will try to land hard right hands to win rounds to hurt or KO Lomachenko as Loma comes walking in.

    But what if Mayweather cannot land his right hand? Then Lomachenko will win a decision.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    By avoiding the right hand. Loma's a southpaw, Mayweather is a already not going to land his jab much in this fight.
     
  4. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    The ultimate casual argument is displayed right here.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'd pick Mayweather. I'd pick him to sneak it in the closing rounds. Just a bit more experienced I think.

    Loma is already special enough that it's an argument though.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The old guard is retiring. Those 3 wins stack up pretty well against most of the younger guys like the under 32 fighters. I'm not saying OMG look at Loma's resume, but none of the younger guys really have great resumes right now. Ward clearly has better wins, but he's retired and getting older. Pacquiao has way better wins, but he's shot now. Cotto even though he's shot doesn't really have better wins, but he's faced much tougher competition though.

    Also JLC who is regarded by many to be Mayweather's best win racked up a lot of losses and they weren't teenage losses like Pac had or old as **** losses. Well he did eventually start losing a ton when he got old. He was knocked out by guys like Javier Jauregi, Julio Alvarez in his prime. He went life and death with Stevie Johnson twice just two years before he went life and death with Mayweather. Then after Mayweather he was sparked out by Diego Corrales. The point is guys lose it happens and even JLC is nowhere near as good as people make him out to be. Don't get me wrong he's a good fighter, but I've heard some people comparing to MAB and EM on this board. And I'm like son, FFS put down the crack pipe.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The irony of people saying Loma can't win because he lost to fighter with lots of losses in his 2nd pro fight. Mayweather went life and death with a man who kept getting knocked out over and over and over again anytime he challenged for the Mexican Featherweight Title.

    If you're going to dish out casual **** arguments be prepared to eat it yourself.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair post but when has pbf let alone a prime one failed to land his right hand?
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    True he's always landed his right hand, but he's never fought somebody as good as Loma is right now. JLC came close to beating him, but that's not very relevant because their styles are nothing alike at all. And even when JLC gave him a really tough fight it was mostly because Mayweather just had so much trouble stopping JLC from landing. Mayweather was also able to land on JLC too.
     
  10. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The level of stupidity in this thread is mind blowing.

    No one in history walks through or has an easy evening against a 130lbs Floyd. A superb blend of power, speed, and ring IQ, the kid was an absolute terror at junior lightweight.

    Similarly, the notion that Lomachenko is "easy work" is equally ridiculous. Moreover, the Salido fight-- which is incessantly referenced by the mentally challenged on here--- has absolutely no bearing on this potential matchup, unless of course you believe that the very best version of Salido could beat/hang with the very best of Lomachenko (which we may or may not have seen yet). Then, and only then, would the hackneyed cries of "no one that lost to Salido could beat Floyd" have any relevance.

    That said, at the presenr time, I would favor Floyd to win a close, competitive decision largely on the basis of his physical advantages (naturally bigger, notable reach edge). Time will tell if that prediction warrants revising.
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I think Loma will have a harder time landing on pbf than the other way around. Pbf is arguably the best defensive fighter of all time.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then Mayweather runs the risk of being outworked. Mayweather can focus a ton of stopping Loma from landing, but if he does that then Loma will win because Floyd won't throw enough.

    Loma is good enough technically that Mayweather is going to have to eat some leather if he wants to land his own. If Floyd thinks he's going to sit back, have Loma follow him around, lower the output and pick him off on the outside. Essentially a Diego Corrales repeat he's going to be surprised because that just ain't going to happen. Completely different styles and skill levels we're talking about here.

    If both of these guys come to fight and win then they're both going to get hit. It's just a matter of how much. If Floyd tries to win and not just survive like Rigo did then yes he will get hit by Loma, but he will also land more himself.
     
  13. iDavid

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    Mayflower would never ever go near Loma at 130.
    He is a ducker and it's a fact.

    Name me one A class fighter in his prime at his best weight that IV bag has fought?
     
  14. Lemiwinks

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    He's a defensive fighter because he hasn't the ability or imagination to fight offensively!
    The fact that Loma is an aggressive offensive fighter and still gets hit less than mayweather is just incredible.
    I honestly see lomachenko running circles around mayweather and he won't know how to handle it.
    Mayweather will not land just like every other opponent of lomachenko.
    btw if you bring salido up again ydksab! Also we will compare mayweather getting lit up vs reggie sanders in his 2nd pro fight.
    What would lomachenko do to a 1-0 mayweather?
    You decide lol....
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I believe that neither man is "easy work" for anybody. But let's be perfectly honest here. Neither of these men are completely tested. To say that they are totally and 100 percent tested against the very best of the best with those fighters in their prime is not true.

    Mayweather is without a shadow of a doubt an ATG, but his resume lacks "the test man". He's never fought a truly great fighter in their prime. How does he react against somebody like let's say a prime Roberto Duran, a prime Pernell Whitaker, a prime DLH, a prime JCC? We don't know and we never will know.

    As for Loma he's in the same boat. He's never fought anybody great. He just hasn't despite what his superfans want to say.

    If Loma and Mayweather fought at 130 both men would be in completely uncharted territories. To say otherwise is wrong.
     
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