Fair enough. At least your reasonable with your opinion. We can just agree to disagree on the issue. I certainly agree with you about the "big" fights with the Mexicans providing an incentive to move up (though I still believe he would've naturally moved up anyway). It doesn't matter anyhow. :good
Shot my ass. He only became "shot" to all you revisionists after the rematch. What is your evidence of him being shot? On the other hand I have tons of evidence of Pac's nasty cut caused by headbutt and him wearing the pillow winning gloves. :yep
You need to watch it again as you seem to be remembmering a different fight. That fight was close, a lot of the rounds were very close and could be scored one way or another. I have posted my scorecard here right after the fight and detailed account of what happens in each round and why I scored it to which fighter. Even the official score 115-113 on all judges shows it is close - just 1 round swing and it is a draw.
but to be fair to pacquiao, the 3rd and 4th loss was from pac himself and the two losses were from barrera and raheem via decision. both highly technical and slick fighters and one was from a higher division where morales has no business fighting. both also failed to stop morales and pac was the first to stop him.
You don't get it. Here at ESB, no great fighters can be beaten at their prime. When Pac beat MAB, MAB was shot. When Pac beat Morales, Morales was shot. When Taylor beat Hopkins, Hopkins was shot. When Tarver beat Jones, Jones was shot. When Douglas beat Tyson, Tyson was shot. I am beginning to contemplate that perhaps when Holyfield lost to Bowe the 1st, he must have been shot as well. :-(
DDoo Don't waste your time speculating on who's better prime for prime, dude. You will never know if you are right or not. Let's just talk about the achievements of both fighters, not what they hoped to do. Pac is a 4 or 5 divisional champ, Morales is just 3. He failed to become the first Mexican to achieve 4 when he lost to mediocre David Diaz. Pac has achieved the #1 P4P status, your boy did not. These are facts, not speculations. Pac lost to Morales because it was his first time to fight in 130. Inspite of that, the decision of the judges was close. Morales was only one round ahead. But I don't take away the credit from Morales for that win. Unlike you who keep harping that Morales was shot, had seen better days, etc. etc. You should give credit where credit is due. Pac was a well trained beast in those subsequent fights. He made sure the results didn't leave any room for controversy.
I suspect Morales tried to intimidate Pacquiao by fighting in the higher weight in a tune up fight. Unfortunately he failed as he lost miserably against Raheem. On the other hand, Pac in that same card knocked out Velasquez in a very impressive fashion. From there on, these guys blamed Raheem for weakening his legs. They should have blamed Morales for taking more than he could chew.
If JMM wasn't able to give a good showing in his last bout with Pacman, he would have been labeled as shot as well...! If Pac wins against ODLH, he would be labeled as shot too...
**** Icarus! He's ****ing DaY DREAMING again! Morales ko Pac 10 out of 10 times Funake KO pac in 2 rounds.. X boxer KO pac in... And the DREAM CONTINUES Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dead
...Next time you will hear ICARUS... AFTER The LEGS X boxer lost because of his, arms, hands, head, fingers, nose....... I thought he was just a PAC hater. I NEVER thought he was ALSO STUPID