I think Paul Williams can beat Kelly Pavlik

Sonny what I meant was he has concussive power, not one punch power like the above mentioned, I apologize if I was not clear. And also, I did not mean all time but presently.

 

Williams couldn't make 8 rounds with Pavlik: bet your ****ing house on that.

 

Salute to you, sir!:good:good

 

Not always, you are referring to how Pavlik was able to KO the Top Dogs at 160. He has stretched many a dude, from one blow. Look at the Zertuche KO, for example. One shot and the ref had to tackle Pavlik to make sure he didn't hit him a again on the way down.:yep

 

he beat Zertuche for like 10 rounds... He has good power but not great Like McClellan, Julian Jackson or Nigel Benn.

 

if paul can handle getting hit often by a guy who hits way harder than anyone he's faced to date for 12 rounds without changing his normal rhythm/gameplan, i think he can win this fight. the problem is, paul likes to keep distance and use those long arms, which means he'll be at the end of all of pavlik's straight power shots. when those things start landing, i have a feeling he's gonna be forced to make adjustments so that he doesn't get knocked out and when he does that will he be able to win a decision?

 

PW pretty much does come straight forward or simply stand his ground. his footwork/lateral movement isn't generally what throws off opponents and keeps him from getting hit, its his upper body and head movement, which i have been pretty damn impressed with lately.

 

Nearly every statment you made here is wrong. That's not a personal attack. It's just a fact.

Kelly doesn't move well and has no rythym? He ran up an amatuer record of 89-9, won 4 national championships in 1998 alone, and made the Olympic trials at just 17 years of age. As a pro he scored a clear UD over Jermain Taylor. Hopkins failed at that task twice, and Winky failed too, but KP succeeded.

Kelly has never fought someone taller: Again you're wrong. Rico Cason ain't no Paul Williams, but he was bigger, taller, and stronger than KP. Kelly knocked him down with a right hand he threw off the back foot, and then startched him with a left hook to the body. Several of the guys Kelly beat on his way up finished their careers as Light heavyweights and even crusiers.

Kelly is at his best when his opponent comes straight at him, but **** me bro, that's true of every boxer who climbed in a ring. It's always easier to beat a guy who comes straight in.

If you want to pick PWilly, that's you're right, but your arguments up to now simply do not hold water.

 

You must have been making this post at the same time I posted. It's much better than the one I beat up on.

 

i just don't think his movement is anywhere near what it would need to be to really stay away from pavlik. his output isn't THAT much higher and his reach is not long enough to keep enough distance from kelly.. i agree with most of what you said, i just think KP's gonna be able to nullify most of that once he starts landing hard shots straight up the middle. PW is a more complete fighter, he's just dealing with a beast who i'm predicting will make paul fight a very different fight than he's used to fighting.

 

i want to post how i feel about this fight but i already went into depth in another thread

if williams can stay supremely disciplined and focused he will ud pavlik
if he gets sloppy he will get knocked out

 

I've seen nothing to make me believe P-dub can handle a middleweight punch.

 

This discussion reminds me of the ones we had before Taylor - Pavlik when most said taylor would surely win, Pavlik was just a brawler etc. Who knows how good Williams is at 160? It can't be known, just as Pavlik's ability couldn't be fully judged before he fought Taylor.

What is also unknown is how well Pavlik recovered mentally from the loss to Hopkins. How many fighters come back from losing every round of a fight and not carry an mental scar? What if Williams dazzles Pavlik with his speed and movement in the first three rounds? I believe the pre - Hopkins Pavlik would have risen to the challende and walked Williams down eventually. I am not sure that he can still do it.