I think Rafael Marquez threw the fight

Chileno606 · Aug 8, 2007

He fought in the opposite way he fought in the first fight, where he did well. His jab was never there, it was slow and was nothing like int he first fight. He also rarely tried to box, when Vasquez tried to get inside, instead of sidestepping or stepping back, he would hunch over and try to hook with the stronger and better hooker. He fought the completely wrong way, since the very begining, before he even began taking punches. He whent out fighting though, so it wasnt bad. They get another big paycheck in the trlilogy now, and they both get to take part in another great fight.
I just think Rafa could have won again had he really tried to box more like in the first fight. He fought the wrong fightplan on purpose to have a trilogy. :think

For the morons:

Shev said:

Marquez wouldn't throw a fight when another win adds more to his legacy and supremacy in that division and historically. Theres a number of reasons why he might have lost and I shouldn't even bother because this tread is stupid but here it goes;

1. Maybe he thought he would do the same as before, maybe even easier with the nose factoring into it. Before the fight over 70% thought that Marquez was going to win, why do you think that was? Did he understimate Vasquez?

2. He might have tried to beat Vasquez at infighting because of his confidence in his power and the last fights result. Maybe he couldn't find room to maneuver due to the more effective pressure this time.

3. Vasquez simply looked a lot better this time with his jab and movement. Didn't Roach not train him the last time?

4. Vasquez has serious power and Marquez has only a decent chin. He was hurt throughout the fight.

5. Ever here of simply being the better man on the night?

6. If Marquez threw the fight intentionally explain the referees stoppage, he was fighting til the end.
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Chileno606 said:

I dont dispute any of this, and where tha **** do you ******s get that I said Marquez took a dive? Learn how to read you morons. I just said he purposely fought in the wrong style, the style that would either grant him a quick victory or a glorious loss (go to war with stronger guy). Its not far-fetched at all to think they BOTH (AND SHOWTIME) wanted a third fight, if you think its a stupid idea, your naive and dont know **** about the business that is Boxing. These guys are making peanuts compared to guys in heavier divisions, they need all the good paychecks they can get because at their weightclass they are rare. I should have made all this more clear in the first post, I'll say that much.
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jackiebrown · Aug 8, 2007

i believe he did ... look at the betting section ... you'll see hours before the fight i clearly called vasqez and just for this particular reason.. all the money is in the rubber match ...

you aint alone in this thought bra

Marcus · Aug 8, 2007

A Mexican champ like Marquez wouldnt do such a thing IMO

achillesthegreat · Aug 9, 2007

Shockingly stupid thread.

rendog67 · Aug 9, 2007

no way just cant see it

kg0208 · Aug 9, 2007

Not buyin it.

psychopath · Aug 9, 2007

Chileno606 said:

He fought in the opposite way he fought in the first fight, where he did well. His jab was never there, it was slow and was nothing like int he first fight. He also rarely tried to box, when Vasquez tried to get inside, instead of sidestepping or stepping back, he would hunch over and try to hook with the stronger and better hooker. He fought the completely wrong way, since the very begining, before he even began taking punches. He whent out fighting though, so it wasnt bad. They get another big paycheck in the trlilogy now, and they both get to take part in another great fight.
I just think Rafa could have won again had he really tried to box more like in the first fight. He fought the wrong fightplan on purpose to have a trilogy. :think
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theunderdog · Aug 9, 2007

it was a contested stoppage. don't you think he would have done a little bit "more" if he threw the fight? i mean rafa took many punches in that fight that could put a lesser fighter to sleep, don't you think he could have taken a dive earlier in the fight?

PATSYS · Aug 9, 2007

atsch atsch atsch

atsch atsch atsch

InHumanForm · Aug 9, 2007

El Rey said:

:nod

Instead of blaming Rafa for a dive you should be applauding Vazquez for switching his gameplan which rendered Marquez unable to do everything he did the first fight.

In this fight Vazquez was much more aggressive than we've ever seen him, as he used a short jab early on to work his way inside better, and he also worked harder to stay closer to Rafa the entire fight... and while inside this time he worked the body and used his shorter punches and physical strength to be more effective on the inside than Marquez.

Taking a dive?:roll: Pffft, that's one hell of a beating to take if all Rafa wanted to do is take a 'dive'.
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good post. and damn Vasquez has a NICE jab. it kept popping Rafa's head back when it landed like a good jab is supposed to.

MacManJr. · Aug 9, 2007

We don't believe you. You need more people! (Hov)

tragicliston · Aug 9, 2007

Give me a break.

nezy37 · Aug 9, 2007

atsch

thewoo · Aug 9, 2007

I didn't even take the time to read the explanation in the first post. The title of this thread is stupid enough.

freddy-wak · Aug 9, 2007

El Rey said:

:nod

Instead of blaming Rafa for a dive you should be applauding Vazquez for switching his gameplan which rendered Marquez unable to do everything he did the first fight.

In this fight Vazquez was much more aggressive than we've ever seen him, as he used a short jab early on to work his way inside better, and he also worked harder to stay closer to Rafa the entire fight... and while inside this time he worked the body and used his shorter punches and physical strength to be more effective on the inside than Marquez.

Taking a dive?:roll: Pffft, that's one hell of a beating to take if all Rafa wanted to do is take a 'dive'.
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ok then, he took a cannonball plunge...

it really surprises me how dumb some guys can be "TAKE A DIVE" ahahahahahahhaha that's funny...

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