I think Rafael Marquez threw the fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Chileno606, Aug 8, 2007.


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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    I favor Izzy by about 70/30 but Marquez can hurt Vasquez badly with that straight right. It will be a war for sure.
     
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  2. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Bull**** thread btw you don't go to war like that when you throw fights
     
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  3. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Is this guy serious???
     
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  4. Chileno606

    Chileno606 Gentleman & Scholar Full Member

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    I dont dispute any of this, and where tha **** do you ******s get that I said Marquez took a dive? Learn how to read you morons. I just said he purposely fought in the wrong style, the style that would either grant him a quick victory or a glorious loss (go to war with stronger guy). Its not far-fetched at all to think they BOTH (AND SHOWTIME) wanted a third fight, if you think its a stupid idea, your naive and dont know **** about the business that is Boxing. These guys are making peanuts compared to guys in heavier divisions, they need all the good paychecks they can get because at their weightclass they are rare. I should have made all this more clear in the first post, I'll say that much.
     
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  5. a.arthur.h

    a.arthur.h Original Lightning Full Member

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    You thought Marquez could have won. So did I. But give some credit to Vasquez for doing an excellent job in exploiting a flaw in Marquez's style of fighting. If Marquez did this to get a third fight and more money as you say, then why wouldn't he have lost the rematches he had previously had with other fighters? Like the rematches he gave to Mark Johnson or Silence Mabuza?

    This was simply a matter of Vasquez capitalizing on an opening which was revealed in the first fight. Marquez left himself open for the left hook and in the second fight Vasquez took major advantage of it. Thats more of a flaw in his training than a motive to gain a third fight.
     
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  6. Chileno606

    Chileno606 Gentleman & Scholar Full Member

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    I never said Vaquez didnt deserve credit, I just didnt mention it because its obvious he deserves it. I should have mentioned it though. Those other rematches were not as high profile as Rafa's fights with Vasquez though... As for the the other stuff, I think thats definetly possible. Vasquez simply being the better guy that night by doing the right things at the right time, but nothing we write here is 100% acurate. Some things might be right, but but theres no way to know for sure. If you know Marquez and his trainer, you know how smart they are in fights...everything just didnt look right to me since the begining... Marquez was consistently engaging on the inside where he is at a disadvantage and his corner never told him not to or showed any urgency in telling him to box and stay away. Maybe Rafa just couldnt carry out the winning gameplan, period. Its all theory, so whatever, whats done is done and the third fight should be good.
     
    Chileno606, Aug 9, 2007
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  7. Killer_Fish

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    The title give it away. Learn how to type moron, if you don't want to imply "dive".
     
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  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Even in the first fight, he was eating a lot of leather and had been KDed. Infact, some had vazquez winning before the ill-fated stoppage via a broken nose.

    To insinuate such thing is a disservice to Vazquez. As if Vazquez can only win against Rafa if he threw a fight away! The next thing that would crop up would probably be a conspiracy theory involving the Mafia, Yakuza, CIA.
     
    pejevan, Aug 10, 2007
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  9. jopez707

    jopez707 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is no way Marquez threw this fight, he was on the cusp of superstardom in the boxing world. He was top 5 pound4pound and had he won I would have had him at number 3 only behind PBF and Pac, now he is faced with a third dangerous fight with a naturally bigger fighter who has hurt and dropped him in 2 consecutive fights. Each of these grueling fights are taking the some of the boxing life out of these fighters. Rafael Marquez is 32, he inst young especially by jr. featherweight standards, how many big fights does he have left?
     
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