I think Tommy Fury is in big trouble against Jake Paul.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by CutThroatFade, Nov 8, 2021.


  1. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im not sure why I am bothering replying to you as you seem to take massive umbrage with anyone saying a negative word about these two so you are hardly the most impartial.

    My boohoo analogy was just that. The point I am making is that to transition from a novice boxer to a serious one, takes dedication and a singular mindset. Most boxers who are rich have put in those hard yards at the front end of their careers. Fury hasn’t done that yet. So he can either pad his record out and be spoon fed bums like he was prior to the Paul fight, or he can knuckle down and put in the serious work now.
     
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  2. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tommy Fury isn't hard to hit, he got marked up and dropped by a YouTuber. Imagine him in with someone like Lyndon Arthur or Anthony Yarde? He'd have blood pouring from his brow after a few rounds and he'd no doubt panic.
     
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  3. 08Horacio08

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    What you're saying is that he can't do anything else because he needs to only eat, sleep, train and compete. In no real world context does that ideology work or even happen!

    Boxers who are coming up and don't have opportunities to make money the way Fury does are still doing other stuff. This singular mindset you're going on about just doesn't exist in the real world. People who have so-called "singular mindsets" are still doing other stuff.
     
  4. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    He does have a clear choice now though - pro boxer or youtube boxer. The pro boxer route is going to take a brutal amount of hard work for him to get anywhere, and still has no guarantees. The youtube boxer route is the easy one where he'll still train hard but have more time and effort for other pursuits.
     
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  5. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He’d probably make more money staying in ‘influencer boxing’. He’s 24 in a couple of months and I don’t believe he’s at the level he needs to be at by that age to do a great deal in the pro ranks.

    There’s money to be made fighting Jake Paul, Logan Paul, KSI and whoever else. More so than aiming for a domestic title.
     
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  6. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Investing your energy into how much money another man (who doesn't know you exist) might earn or not, isn't the smartest use of your focus.
     
  7. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    A few rounds?

    More like a few minutes.
     
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  8. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if Jakes missus ended up getting bent over and done like a dog by Tommy. IFL failing to ask the hard hitting questions once again.
     
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  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Most 9 fight novices in the UK would get splattered by Arthur and Yarde.

    People keep referring to Paul as just a YouTuber and whilst he is an annoying ****, he's jumped in the ring 7 times now and will at least come to win (and carries a bit of a pop too in fairness) rather than some of the Latvian train drivers we see getting wheeled out by UK promoters week in week out to beef out there prospects record.

    Prior to Tommy he beat Anderson Silva who himself had just recently beaten Julio Cesar Chavez (lol) and Chavez himself wasn't long removed from fighting Danny Jacobs.

    Tommy can effectively do what he wants now. If he wants to get to a stage where he's fighting for a British title then he's going to have to go through the slog of Area Level / English title fights which will be rough and tough for nowhere near the amount of dough he's just made.

    On the flip side, he can continue to make a fortune by fighting the likes of your Jake Paul and KSI's in easier fights.... the only downside is that Dave who drinks in the pub down the road might call him a **** celebrity boxer.

    For me, it's an absolute no brainer.
     
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  10. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And another nail in the coffin of boxing.
     
  11. 08Horacio08

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    Bang on.

    Also, do you reckon he will atually have to go through area level/English title to fight for a British title? Is that necessary? I would've thought that with the money and eyes he would bring about he would somehow be slipped in there without having to do much, but i don't know if there's rules I don't know about
     
  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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  13. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

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    This aged well
     
  14. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be fair to Tommy Fury he isn’t at all that bad, can’t be easy your big brother being the best in the buisiness and him constantly being in his shadow. He had a lot of pressure on him. I thought he would lose this fight when it was first announced but to be fair he boxed the head off JP who after two rounds was nothing more than a statutory exhausted target.

    Could TF win an English title? Definitely. If he is more active and fights 6 times a year he easily could. He may be a celebrity but he proved he can fight and he has good stamina. Could do a 12 rounder now, that’s half the battle at the early stages.
     
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  15. Jolly Jim Jacobs

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    This "he has good stamina" thing is conjecture. We have yet to see someone put it on him and he was breathing hard in his corner in an eight rounder. I would reserve judgement on his stamina. Normally boxers who are pumped up like he is lack stamina. If he wasn't so pumped up, he would probably be no more than a super middleweight.

    It was a competitive fight and he was put down by a jab. I don't think that BJ Flores is a very good coach. Jake Paul would do well to find a better coach.